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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	cluster-devel <cluster-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 23:44:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXCbv5gdfEEtAYo8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgv=KPZBJGnx_O5-7hhST8CL9BN4wJwtVuycjhv_1MmvQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:11:19AM -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:37 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > The atomic "add zero" trick isn't that simple for MTE since the arm64
> > atomic or exclusive instructions run with kernel privileges and
> > therefore with the kernel tag checking mode.
> 
> Are there any instructions that are useful for "probe_user_write()"
> kind of thing?

If it's on a user address, the only single-instruction that works with
MTE is STTR (as in put_user()) but that's destructive. Other "add zero"
constructs require some potentially expensive system register accesses
just to set the tag checking mode of the current task.

A probe_user_write() on the kernel linear address involves reading the
tag from memory and comparing it with the tag in the user pointer. In
addition, it needs to take into account the current task's tag checking
mode and the vma vm_flags. We should have most of the information in the
gup code.

> Although at least for MTE, I think the solution was to do a regular
> read, and that checks the tag, and then we could use the gup machinery
> for the writability checks.

Yes, for MTE this should work. For CHERI I think an "add zero" would
do the trick (it should have atomics that work on capabilities
directly). However, with MTE doing both get_user() every 16 bytes and
gup can get pretty expensive. The problematic code is
fault_in_safe_writable() in this series.

I can give this 16-byte probing in gup a try (on top of -next) but IMHO
we unnecessarily overload the fault_in_*() logic with something the
kernel cannot fix up. The only reason we do it is so that we get an
error code and bail out of a loop but the uaccess routines could be
extended to report the fault type instead. It looks like we pretty much
duplicate the uaccess in the fault_in_*() functions (four accesses per
cache line).

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19 13:41 [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 01/17] iov_iter: Fix iov_iter_get_pages{,_alloc} page fault return value Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 02/17] powerpc/kvm: Fix kvm_use_magic_page Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 03/17] gup: Turn fault_in_pages_{readable,writeable} into fault_in_{readable,writeable} Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 04/17] iov_iter: Turn iov_iter_fault_in_readable into fault_in_iov_iter_readable Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 05/17] iov_iter: Introduce fault_in_iov_iter_writeable Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-20 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 06/17] gfs2: Add wrapper for iomap_file_buffered_write Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 07/17] gfs2: Clean up function may_grant Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 08/17] gfs2: Introduce flag for glock holder auto-demotion Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 09/17] gfs2: Move the inode glock locking to gfs2_file_buffered_write Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 10/17] gfs2: Eliminate ip->i_gh Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 11/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks for buffered I/O Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 12/17] iomap: Fix iomap_dio_rw return value for user copies Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 13/17] iomap: Support partial direct I/O on user copy failures Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 14/17] iomap: Add done_before argument to iomap_dio_rw Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 15:51   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-19 19:30     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-20  1:57       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 15/17] gup: Introduce FOLL_NOFAULT flag to disable page faults Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 16/17] iov_iter: Introduce nofault " Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 17/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks for direct I/O Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks Linus Torvalds
2021-10-19 16:00   ` Bob Peterson
2021-10-20 16:36   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-20 20:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-20 22:44       ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2021-10-21  6:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-22 18:06           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-22 19:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 19:00               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-26 18:24                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-26 18:50                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-26 19:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-27 19:13                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-27 21:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-28 21:20                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 21:40                           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 22:15                           ` Andreas Grünbacher
2021-10-29 12:50                             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 22:32                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-29 17:50                             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-29 18:47                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 18:24             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-26  5:12               ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-10-26  9:44               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-27 21:21               ` Andreas Gruenbacher

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