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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] random: use BLAKE2s instead of SHA1 in extraction
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:31:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9o4tyG2srPGe74n+cx9nfsU-xVe7C+mf4677ojVLVBWDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <05ae373684334e6581294baa8afd3238@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 6:27 PM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jason A. Donenfeld
> > Sent: 11 January 2022 12:50
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 1:28 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> > > If you're really quite concerned about m68k code size, I can probably
> > > do some things to reduce that. For example, blake2s256_hmac is only
> > > used by wireguard and it could probably be made local there. And with
> > > some trivial loop re-rolling, I can shave off another 2300 bytes. And
> > > I bet I can find a few other things too. The question is: how
> > > important is this to you?
> >
> > And with another trick (see below), another extra 1000 bytes or so
> > shaved off. Aside from moving blake2s256_hmac, I'm not really super
> > enthusiastic about making these changes, but depending on how important
> > this is to you, maybe we can make something work. There are probably
> > additional possibilities too with the code.
>
> Quite clearly whoever wrote the unrolled loops needs their head examined.
> It is extremely unlikely that a cpu has enough registers to implement it
> effeciently.

Feel free to send a patch doing this, along with benchmarks. It
doesn't seem impossible to me that re-rolling the rounds might be
better on some platforms. The question is - is it really? And if so,
which ones? And for what varieties of inputs? If you put some research
into this, please do CC me on patches.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-23 14:11 [PATCH v2 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: include as built-in Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-23 14:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] random: use BLAKE2s instead of SHA1 in extraction Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-24 20:56   ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-05 21:42     ` Eric Biggers
2021-12-27 15:52   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-11 11:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-11 12:28     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 12:50       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 12:57         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-11 13:00           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 15:46         ` David Laight
2022-01-11 18:26           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-14 17:27         ` David Laight
2022-01-14 17:31           ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-01-11 12:51       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-11 13:02         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 13:49           ` [PATCH crypto 0/2] smaller blake2s code size on m68k and other small platforms Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 13:49             ` [PATCH crypto 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s-generic: reduce code size on small systems Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 10:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 13:16                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 18:31               ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-12 18:50                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 21:27                   ` David Laight
2022-01-12 22:00                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 13:49             ` [PATCH crypto 2/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: move hmac construction into wireguard Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 14:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-12 18:35               ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-11 18:10             ` [PATCH crypto v2 0/2] reduce code size from blake2s on m68k and other small platforms Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 18:10               ` [PATCH crypto v2 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: move hmac construction into wireguard Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 18:10               ` [PATCH crypto v2 2/2] lib/crypto: sha1: re-roll loops to reduce code size Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 22:05               ` [PATCH crypto v3 0/2] reduce code size from blake2s on m68k and other small platforms Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 22:05                 ` [PATCH crypto v3 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: move hmac construction into wireguard Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 22:05                 ` [PATCH crypto v3 2/2] lib/crypto: sha1: re-roll loops to reduce code size Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 10:59                 ` [PATCH crypto v3 0/2] reduce code size from blake2s on m68k and other small platforms Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 13:18                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-18  6:42                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-18 11:43                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-18 12:44                         ` David Laight
2022-01-18 12:50                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-23 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: include as built-in Ard Biesheuvel
2021-12-24 13:35 ` Greg KH
2021-12-25  9:26 ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-12-25 10:26   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-12-25 15:47     ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-12-27 13:43       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-27 13:47         ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-27 14:20           ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-01 15:59             ` [PATCH v5] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-02 20:42               ` [PATCH v6] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-03  3:23                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-03  3:45                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-03  4:06                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-03 11:57                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-03 12:31                         ` [PATCH v7] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-04  1:21                           ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-04 17:02                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-04 17:04                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-05  0:28                               ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-05 21:53                               ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-05 22:01                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-05 22:09                                   ` Eric Biggers

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