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From: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: new ...at() flag: AT_NO_JUMPS
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 09:50:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHse=S9=Qpjcex+1O0n1r_pnyLZPUq+K03thbAozG61umEH9Ug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170505003030.GM29622@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 07:36:52PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
>
>> Oh, nice!
>>
>> It looks like this is somewhat similar to the old O_BENEATH proposal,
>> but because the intentions behind the proposals are different
>> (application sandboxing versus permitting an application to restrict its
>> own filesystem accesses), the semantics differ: AT_NO_JUMPS
>> doesn't prevent starting the path with "/", but does prevent mountpoint
>> traversal. Is that correct?
>
> It prevents both, actually - I missed that in description, but this
>         if (unlikely(nd->flags & LOOKUP_NO_JUMPS))
>                 return -ELOOP;
> in nd_jump_root() affects absolute pathnames same way as it affects
> absolute symlinks.
>
> It's not quite O_BENEATH, and IMO it's saner that way - a/b/c/../d is
> bloody well allowed, and so are relative symlinks that do not lead out of
> the subtree.  If somebody has a good argument in favour of flat-out
> ban on .. (_other_ than "other guys do it that way, and it doesn't need
> to make sense 'cuz security!!1!!!", please), I'd be glad to hear it.

BTW, FreeBSD head now allows .. if it stays in subtree:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=308212

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-18  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-29 22:04 Al Viro
2017-04-29 23:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-29 23:25   ` Al Viro
2017-04-30  1:13     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-30  4:38     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-30 16:10       ` Al Viro
2017-05-01  4:52         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-01  5:15           ` Al Viro
2017-05-01 17:36 ` Jann Horn
2017-05-01 19:37   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05  0:30   ` Al Viro
2017-05-05  0:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05  1:06       ` Al Viro
2017-05-05  1:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-05  3:00       ` Al Viro
2017-05-05  4:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-05  4:31           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05  2:47     ` Jann Horn
2017-05-05  3:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-05  4:39         ` Al Viro
2017-05-05  4:44           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05 20:04             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-05 20:28           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-08 19:34             ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-05-18  8:50     ` David Drysdale [this message]
2017-09-10 20:26 Jürg Billeter

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