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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	Jiri Eischmann <jeischma@redhat.com>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open"
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 11:17:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0jJ0SruFMp+v5ibcBnzctvjZF7U1w4+XThzFjwxTpdUUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170515074553.GJ30987@mail.corp.redhat.com>

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Benjamin Tissoires
<benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com> wrote:
> On May 12 2017 or thereabouts, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Friday, May 12, 2017 02:36:20 AM Zheng, Lv wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > > From: Benjamin Tissoires [mailto:benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com]
>> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open"
>> > >
>> > > On May 11 2017 or thereabouts, Zheng, Lv wrote:
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > > From: Benjamin Tissoires [mailto:benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com]
>> > > > > Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This reverts commit 77e9a4aa9de10cc1418bf9a892366988802a8025.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Even if the method implementation can be buggy on some platform,
>> > > > > the "open" choice is worse. It breaks docking stations basically
>> > > > > and there is no way to have a user-space hwdb to fix that.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On the contrary, it's rather easy in user-space to have a hwdb
>> > > > > with the problematic platforms. Then, libinput (1.7.0+) can fix
>> > > > > the state of the LID switch for us: you need to set the udev
>> > > > > property LIBINPUT_ATTR_LID_SWITCH_RELIABILITY to 'write_open'.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > When libinput detects internal keyboard events, it will
>> > > > > overwrite the state of the switch to open, making it reliable
>> > > > > again. Given that logind only checks the LID switch value after
>> > > > > a timeout, we can assume the user will use the internal keyboard
>> > > > > before this timeout expires.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > For example, such a hwdb entry is:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > libinput:name:*Lid Switch*:dmi:*svnMicrosoftCorporation:pnSurface3:*
>> > > > >  LIBINPUT_ATTR_LID_SWITCH_RELIABILITY=write_open
>> > > >
>
> [...]
>
>>
>> Well, if it worked in a specific way that users depended on before the commit in
>> question and now it works differently, then it does break things.
>>
>> Benjamin, my understanding is that this is the case, is it correct?
>
> That is correct. This patch I reverted introduces regression for professional
> laptops that expect the LID switch to be reported accurately.

And from a user's perspective, what does not work any more?

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-15  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-10 16:12 [PATCH 0/2] acpi/button: revert v4.10 behavior Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-10 16:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Remove lid_init_state=method mode" Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-11  0:58   ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-11  1:19     ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-11 10:12       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-12  5:08         ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-12  9:50           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-15  4:54             ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-15  7:42               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-16  5:05                 ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-10 16:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open" Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-11  0:59   ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-11  9:45     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-12  2:36       ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-12 21:50         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-15  7:45           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-15  9:17             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2017-05-15  9:37               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-15 11:01                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-15 13:05                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-16  5:33                     ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-16  5:47                       ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-16  7:15                         ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-16  8:30                           ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-16 10:10                             ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-17  7:32                               ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-17 11:54                                 ` Peter Hutterer
2017-05-17 14:16                                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-24  8:08                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-05-24 23:01                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-25  6:17                       ` Zheng, Lv
2017-05-26  7:39                     ` Peter Hutterer
2017-05-27 19:23                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-11  0:09 ` [PATCH 0/2] acpi/button: revert v4.10 behavior Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-11  9:33   ` Benjamin Tissoires

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