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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>
Cc: Dharmendra Singh <dharamhans87@gmail.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] FUSE: Implement atomic lookup + open/create
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 13:50:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegswePPhVrDrwjZHbHb91iOkbfObnxFqzJU88U7pH86Row@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ccfd2c96-35c7-8e33-9c5e-a1623d969f39@ddn.com>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 13:17, Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Miklos,
>
> On 5/19/22 11:39, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 12:08, Dharmendra Singh <dharamhans87@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In FUSE, as of now, uncached lookups are expensive over the wire.
> >> E.g additional latencies and stressing (meta data) servers from
> >> thousands of clients. These lookup calls possibly can be avoided
> >> in some cases. Incoming three patches address this issue.
> >>
> >>
> >> Fist patch handles the case where we are creating a file with O_CREAT.
> >> Before we go for file creation, we do a lookup on the file which is most
> >> likely non-existent. After this lookup is done, we again go into libfuse
> >> to create file. Such lookups where file is most likely non-existent, can
> >> be avoided.
> >
> > I'd really like to see a bit wider picture...
> >
> > We have several cases, first of all let's look at plain O_CREAT
> > without O_EXCL (assume that there were no changes since the last
> > lookup for simplicity):
> >
> > [not cached, negative]
> >     ->atomic_open()
> >        LOOKUP
> >        CREATE
> >
>
> [...]
>
> > [not cached]
> >     ->atomic_open()
> >         OPEN_ATOMIC
>
> new patch version is eventually going through xfstests (and it finds
> some issues), but I have a question about wording here. Why
> "OPEN_ATOMIC" and not "ATOMIC_OPEN". Based on your comment  @Dharmendra
> renamed all functions and this fuse op "open atomic" instead of "atomic
> open" - for my non native English this sounds rather weird. At best it
> should be "open atomically"?

FUSE_OPEN_ATOMIC is a specialization of FUSE_OPEN.  Does that explain
my thinking?

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-17 10:07 [PATCH v5 0/3] FUSE: Implement atomic lookup + open/create Dharmendra Singh
2022-05-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] FUSE: Avoid lookups in fuse create Dharmendra Singh
2022-05-17 21:21   ` Vivek Goyal
2022-05-18 17:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2022-05-18 17:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2022-05-18 20:28       ` Bernd Schubert
2022-05-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] FUSE: Rename fuse_create_open() to fuse_atomic_common() Dharmendra Singh
2022-05-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] FUSE: Implement atomic lookup + open Dharmendra Singh
2022-05-19  9:39 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] FUSE: Implement atomic lookup + open/create Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-19 13:13   ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-19 17:41   ` Bernd Schubert
2022-05-19 18:16     ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-19 20:47       ` [fuse-devel] " Bernd Schubert
2022-05-19 19:33   ` Vivek Goyal
2023-06-01 11:16   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-06-01 11:50     ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2023-06-01 12:01       ` Bernd Schubert
2023-06-01 12:18         ` Miklos Szeredi

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