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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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	"SH Chen" <show-hong.chen@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] psi: stop relying on timer_pending for poll_work rescheduling
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 10:46:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpFTWUWmr_Zjj9d1rzNvtO9MjD-FQo1-j0aE6XN74b7_Lg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YN3vyvoDwSUepM18@cmpxchg.org>

On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 9:39 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 10:58:24AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:51:51PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > +   /* cmpxchg should be called even when !force to set poll_scheduled */
> > > +   if (atomic_cmpxchg(&group->poll_scheduled, 0, 1) && !force)
> > >             return;
> >
> > Why is that a cmpxchg() ?
>
> I now realize you had already pointed that out, but I dismissed it in
> the context of poll_lock not being always taken after all.
>
> But you're right, cmpxchg indeed seems inappropriate. xchg will do
> just fine for this binary toggle.
>
> When it comes to ordering, looking at it again, I think we actually
> need ordering here that the seqcount doesn't provide. We have:
>
> timer:
> scheduled = 0
> smp_rmb()
> x = state
>
> scheduler:
> state = y
> smp_wmb()
> if xchg(scheduled, 1) == 0
>   mod_timer()
>
> Again, the requirement is that when the scheduler sees the timer as
> already or still pending, the timer must observe its state updates -
> otherwise we miss poll events.
>
> The seqcount provides the wmb and rmb, but the scheduler-side read of
> @scheduled mustn't be reordered before the write to @state. Likewise,
> the timer-side read of @state also mustn't occur before the write to
> @scheduled.
>
> AFAICS this is broken, not just in the patch, but also in the current
> code when timer_pending() on the scheduler side gets reordered. (Not
> sure if timer reading state can be reordered before the detach_timer()
> of its own expiration, but I don't see full ordering between them.)
>
> So it seems to me we need the ordered atomic_xchg() on the scheduler
> side, and on the timer side an smp_mb() after we set scheduled to 0.

Thanks for the analysis Johannes. Let me dwell on it a bit.

      reply	other threads:[~2021-07-01 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-30 20:51 [PATCH v2 1/1] psi: stop relying on timer_pending for poll_work rescheduling Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-30 22:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2021-07-01  8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-01 16:09   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-01 16:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-01 16:28       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-02  9:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-02 15:49           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-07  2:42             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-01 16:39   ` Johannes Weiner
2021-07-01 17:46     ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]

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