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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, parth@linux.ibm.com,
	qais.yousef@arm.com, chris.hyser@oracle.com,
	pkondeti@codeaurora.org, Valentin.Schneider@arm.com,
	patrick.bellasi@matbug.net, David.Laight@aculab.com,
	pjt@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz, dhaval.giani@oracle.com,
	qperret@google.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 6/6] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:10:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtA8g-MJMPRM2R_Bfo9rGSyR3cYAUy_j5UrRM+SAB=Mm7w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yji0twS4N+0b/Rs9@slm.duckdns.org>

Hi Tejun,

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 18:24, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 05:14:06PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > Tasks can set its latency priority which is then used to decide to preempt
> > the current running entity of the cfs but sched group entities still have
> > the default latency priority.
> >
> > Add a latency field in task group to set the latency priority of the group
> > which will be used against other entity in the parent cfs.
>
> One thing that bothers me about this interface is that the configuration
> values aren't well defined. We have the same problems with the nice levels
> but at least have them map to well defined weight values, which likely won't
> change in any foreseeable future. The fact that we have the
> not-too-well-defined nice levels as an interface shouldn't be a reason we
> add another one. Provided that this is something scheduler folks want, it'd
> be really great if the interface can be better thought through. What are the
> numbers actually encoding?

latency_nice is quite similar to nice. The nice latency is used as an
index to get a latency weight in the range [-1024:1024].  latency_nice
is in the range [-20:19] and latency_prio shifts it in the range
[0:40] . This index is then used to get the latency weight similar to
how the nice prio is used to get a weight. That being said, the
latency should probably reflect the latency_weight instead of the
latency_prio in order to be aligned with the weight and weight.nice
fields of cgroups.

As described in patch 5 commit message, the weight is then used to
compute a relative offset to check whether the waking task can preempt
the current running task.

Vincent

>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-22 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-11 16:14 [PATCH 0/6] Add latency_nice priority Vincent Guittot
2022-03-11 16:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched: Introduce latency-nice as a per-task attribute Vincent Guittot
2022-03-11 16:14 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/core: Propagate parent task's latency requirements to the child task Vincent Guittot
2022-03-22  0:22   ` Tim Chen
2022-03-22 14:57     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-11 16:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched: Allow sched_{get,set}attr to change latency_nice of the task Vincent Guittot
2022-03-22  0:22   ` Tim Chen
2022-03-22 14:55     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-28  9:23   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-03-28 12:41     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-11 16:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/core: Add permission checks for setting the latency_nice value Vincent Guittot
2022-03-11 16:14 ` [RFC 5/6] sched/fair: Take into account latency nice at wakeup Vincent Guittot
2022-03-15  0:53   ` Josh Don
2022-03-15 13:54     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-28  9:24   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-03-28 12:51     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-05-01 15:58   ` Tao Zhou
2022-05-02  9:54     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-05-02 12:30       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-05-02 15:08         ` Tao Zhou
2022-05-02 15:26           ` Tao Zhou
2022-05-02 15:47             ` Tao Zhou
2022-05-02 16:21               ` Vincent Guittot
2022-05-02 23:09                 ` Tao Zhou
2022-05-03  2:30     ` Tao Zhou
2022-05-03 12:40       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-05-04 11:14   ` Chen Yu
2022-05-04 12:39     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-11 16:14 ` [RFC 6/6] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support Vincent Guittot
2022-03-15  0:58   ` Josh Don
2022-03-15 17:07     ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-21 17:24   ` Tejun Heo
2022-03-22 16:10     ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2022-03-22 16:40       ` Tejun Heo
2022-03-23 15:04         ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-23 18:20           ` Chris Hyser
2022-03-22 16:41     ` Tim Chen
2022-03-23 15:23       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-22 16:39 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add latency_nice priority Qais Yousef
2022-03-23 15:32   ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-24 17:25     ` Qais Yousef
2022-03-25 13:27       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-28 16:27         ` Qais Yousef
2022-03-30  7:30           ` Vincent Guittot
2022-03-28  9:24 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-03-28 12:56   ` Vincent Guittot
2022-04-01 12:15     ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-02  8:46       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-04-09 17:08         ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-09 17:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-09 18:10             ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-11  7:26               ` Vincent Guittot

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