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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
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	pjt@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz, qperret@google.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, joshdon@google.com, timj@gnu.org,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, yu.c.chen@intel.com,
	youssefesmat@chromium.org, joel@joelfernandes.org, efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/17] sched/eevdf: Better handle mixed slice length
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:26:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtAkFBw5zt0+WK7dWBUE9OrbOOExG8ueUE6ogdCEQZhpXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230328110354.562078801@infradead.org>

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 13:06, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> In the case where (due to latency-nice) there are different request
> sizes in the tree, the smaller requests tend to be dominated by the
> larger. Also note how the EEVDF lag limits are based on r_max.
>
> Therefore; add a heuristic that for the mixed request size case, moves
> smaller requests to placement strategy #2 which ensures they're
> immidiately eligible and and due to their smaller (virtual) deadline
> will cause preemption.
>
> NOTE: this relies on update_entity_lag() to impose lag limits above
> a single slice.
>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c     |   14 ++++++++++++++
>  kernel/sched/features.h |    1 +
>  kernel/sched/sched.h    |    1 +
>  3 files changed, 16 insertions(+)
>
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -616,6 +616,7 @@ avg_vruntime_add(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq,
>         s64 key = entity_key(cfs_rq, se);
>
>         cfs_rq->avg_vruntime += key * weight;
> +       cfs_rq->avg_slice += se->slice * weight;
>         cfs_rq->avg_load += weight;
>  }
>
> @@ -626,6 +627,7 @@ avg_vruntime_sub(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq,
>         s64 key = entity_key(cfs_rq, se);
>
>         cfs_rq->avg_vruntime -= key * weight;
> +       cfs_rq->avg_slice -= se->slice * weight;
>         cfs_rq->avg_load -= weight;
>  }
>
> @@ -4832,6 +4834,18 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, stru
>                 lag = se->vlag;
>
>                 /*
> +                * For latency sensitive tasks; those that have a shorter than
> +                * average slice and do not fully consume the slice, transition
> +                * to EEVDF placement strategy #2.
> +                */
> +               if (sched_feat(PLACE_FUDGE) &&
> +                   cfs_rq->avg_slice > se->slice * cfs_rq->avg_load) {
> +                       lag += vslice;
> +                       if (lag > 0)
> +                               lag = 0;

By using different lag policies for tasks, doesn't this create
unfairness between tasks ?

I wanted to stress this situation with a simple use case but it seems
that even without changing the slice, there is a fairness problem:

Task A always run
Task B loops on : running 1ms then sleeping 1ms
default nice and latency nice prio bot both
each task should get around 50% of the time.

The fairness is ok with tip/sched/core
but with eevdf, Task B only gets around 30%

I haven't identified the problem so far


> +               }
> +
> +               /*
>                  * If we want to place a task and preserve lag, we have to
>                  * consider the effect of the new entity on the weighted
>                  * average and compensate for this, otherwise lag can quickly
> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
> @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
>   * sleep+wake cycles. EEVDF placement strategy #1, #2 if disabled.
>   */
>  SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_LAG, true)
> +SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_FUDGE, true)
>  SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_DEADLINE_INITIAL, true)
>
>  /*
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -559,6 +559,7 @@ struct cfs_rq {
>         unsigned int            idle_h_nr_running; /* SCHED_IDLE */
>
>         s64                     avg_vruntime;
> +       u64                     avg_slice;
>         u64                     avg_load;
>
>         u64                     exec_clock;
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-31 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-28  9:26 [PATCH 00/17] sched: EEVDF using latency-nice Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 01/17] sched: Introduce latency-nice as a per-task attribute Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 02/17] sched/fair: Add latency_offset Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 03/17] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 04/17] sched/fair: Add avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 23:57   ` Josh Don
2023-03-29  7:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-05 19:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 05/17] sched/fair: Remove START_DEBIT Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 06/17] sched/fair: Add lag based placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-03  9:18   ` Chen Yu
2023-04-05  9:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-06  3:03       ` Chen Yu
2023-04-13 15:42       ` Chen Yu
2023-04-13 15:55         ` Chen Yu
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 07/17] rbtree: Add rb_add_augmented_cached() helper Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 08/17] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF like policy Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29  1:26   ` Josh Don
2023-03-29  8:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29  8:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29  8:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 18:48         ` Josh Don
2023-03-29  8:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 18:54       ` Josh Don
2023-03-29  8:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 14:35   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-30  8:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-30 17:05       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-04-04 12:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 09/17] sched: Commit to lag based placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 10/17] sched/smp: Use lag to simplify cross-runqueue placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 11/17] sched: Commit to EEVDF Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 12/17] sched/debug: Rename min_granularity to base_slice Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 13/17] sched: Merge latency_offset into slice Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 14/17] sched/eevdf: Better handle mixed slice length Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-31 15:26   ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2023-04-04  9:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-04 13:50       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-04-05  5:41         ` Mike Galbraith
2023-04-05  8:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-05 20:05           ` Joel Fernandes
2023-04-14 11:18             ` Phil Auld
2023-04-16  5:10               ` Joel Fernandes
     [not found]   ` <20230401232355.336-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-02  2:40     ` Mike Galbraith
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 15/17] [RFC] sched/eevdf: Sleeper bonus Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29  9:10   ` Mike Galbraith
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 16/17] [RFC] sched/eevdf: Minimal vavg option Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28  9:26 ` [PATCH 17/17] [DEBUG] sched/eevdf: Debug / validation crud Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-03  7:42 ` [PATCH 00/17] sched: EEVDF using latency-nice Shrikanth Hegde
2023-04-10  3:13 ` David Vernet
2023-04-11  2:09   ` David Vernet
     [not found] ` <20230410082307.1327-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-11 10:15   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]   ` <20230411133333.1790-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-11 14:56     ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <20230412025042.1413-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-12  4:05       ` Mike Galbraith
2023-04-25 12:32 ` Phil Auld

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