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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	nicolas.pitre@linaro.org,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/8] sched,idle: need resched polling rework
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:05:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrW3cr_RLnMeMtutM5H+3cJSerUxXuEmiT9miDOEmkpANw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140603140223.GA13658@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:43:47PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> We need rq->curr, rq->idle 'sleeps' with polling set and nr clear, but
>> it obviously has no effect setting that if its not actually the current
>> task.
>>
>> Touching rq->curr needs holding rcu_read_lock() though, to make sure the
>> task stays around, still shouldn't be a problem.
>
>> @@ -1581,8 +1604,14 @@ void scheduler_ipi(void)
>>
>>  static void ttwu_queue_remote(struct task_struct *p, int cpu)
>>  {
>> -     if (llist_add(&p->wake_entry, &cpu_rq(cpu)->wake_list))
>> -             smp_send_reschedule(cpu);
>> +     struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
>> +
>> +     if (llist_add(&p->wake_entry, &rq->wake_list)) {
>> +             rcu_read_lock();
>> +             if (!set_nr_if_polling(rq->curr))
>> +                     smp_send_reschedule(cpu);
>> +             rcu_read_unlock();
>> +     }
>>  }
>
> Hrmm, I think that is still broken, see how in schedule() we clear NR
> before setting the new ->curr.
>
> So I think I had a loop on rq->curr the last time we talked about this,
> but alternatively we could look at clearing NR after setting a new curr.
>
> I think I once looked at why it was done before, of course I can't
> actually remember the details :/

Wouldn't this be a little simpler and maybe even faster if we just
changed the idle loop to make TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG be a real indication
that the idle task is running and actively polling?  That is, change
the end of cpuidle_idle_loop to:

                preempt_set_need_resched();
                tick_nohz_idle_exit();
                clear_tsk_need_resched(current);
                __current_clr_polling();
                smp_mb__after_clear_bit();
                WARN_ON_ONCE(test_thread_flag(TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG));
                sched_ttwu_pending();
                schedule_preempt_disabled();
                __current_set_polling();

This has the added benefit that the optimistic version of the cmpxchg
loop would be safe again.  I'm about to test this with this variant.
I'll try and send a comprehensible set of patches in a few hours.

Can you remind me what the benefit was of letting polling be set when
the idle thread schedules?  It seems racy to me: it probably prevents
any safe use of the polling bit without holding the rq lock.  I guess
there's some benefit to having polling be set for as long as possible,
but it only helps if there are wakeups in very rapid succession, and
it costs a couple of extra bit ops per idle entry.

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-03 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-11 13:42 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] sched,idle: need resched polling rework Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] sched,idle,alpha: Switch from TS_POLLING to TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 14:38   ` Richard Henderson
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] sched,idle,tile: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 15:15   ` Chris Metcalf
2014-04-11 15:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] sched,idle,ia64: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] sched,idle,x86: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] sched,idle: Remove TS_POLLING support Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched,idle: Avoid spurious wakeup IPIs Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-13 21:41   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-09 13:37   ` James Hogan
2014-05-09 14:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:40       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 14:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:57           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 17:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:09                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 17:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 12:54                 ` [tip:sched/arch] arm64: Remove TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 12:26                 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:51       ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched,idle: Avoid spurious wakeup IPIs James Hogan
2014-05-15  9:17         ` James Hogan
2014-05-19 12:54         ` [tip:sched/arch] metag: Remove TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG tip-bot for James Hogan
2014-05-22 12:26         ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for James Hogan
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] sched,idle: Delay clearing the polling bit Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-13 21:51   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] sched,idle: Reflow cpuidle_idle_call() Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-13 21:36   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-14  8:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-14  9:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-14 13:55         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-11 15:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] sched,idle: need resched polling rework Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-11 15:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 12:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 13:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-29  0:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-29  6:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03  6:40           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03  6:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 10:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 14:02               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 16:05                 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2014-06-03 16:19                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 16:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03 17:00                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 18:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 18:44                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03 20:07                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-12  8:35 ` Mike Galbraith

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