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From: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	D Scott Phillips OS <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	carl@os.amperecomputing.com, lcherian@marvell.com,
	bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com, tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com,
	xingxin.hx@openanolis.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
	Xin Hao <xhao@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/19] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:09:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALPaoCgnHYwpyVy_aPafPm6-v+DqirXSbVBLP_wx6jEp8pNBOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALPaoCgXYBphe+toVBmF6eGKz8sCHYsaTvvd5ZnrJBf07tjbzg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:07 PM Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 6:27 PM James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > x86 is blessed with an abundance of monitors, one per RMID, that can be
>
> As I explained earlier, this is not the case on AMD.
>
> > read from any CPU in the domain. MPAMs monitors reside in the MMIO MSC,
> > the number implemented is up to the manufacturer. This means when there are
> > fewer monitors than needed, they need to be allocated and freed.
> >
> > Worse, the domain may be broken up into slices, and the MMIO accesses
> > for each slice may need performing from different CPUs.
> >
> > These two details mean MPAMs monitor code needs to be able to sleep, and
> > IPI another CPU in the domain to read from a resource that has been sliced.
>
> This doesn't sound very convincing. Could mon_event_read() IPI all the
> CPUs in the domain? (after waiting to allocate and install monitors
> when necessary?)

No wait, I know that isn't correct.

As you explained it, the remote CPU needs to sleep because it may need
to atomically acquire, install, and read a CSU monitor.

It still seems possible for the mon_event_read() thread to do all the
waiting (tell remote CPU to program CSU monitor, wait, tell same remote
CPU to read monitor), but that sounds like more work that I don't see a
lot of benefit to doing today.

Can you update the changelog to just say the remote CPU needs to block
when installing a CSU monitor?

Thanks!
-Peter

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-23  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 17:26 [PATCH v3 00/19] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] x86/resctrl: Track the closid with the rmid James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] x86/resctrl: Access per-rmid structures by index James Morse
2023-03-21 10:57   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-31 23:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-24 13:06   ` Peter Newman
2023-05-25 17:32     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] x86/resctrl: Create helper for RMID allocation and mondata dir creation James Morse
2023-03-21 11:05   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-31 23:20   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] x86/resctrl: Move rmid allocation out of mkdir_rdt_prepare() James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] x86/resctrl: Allow RMID allocation to be scoped by CLOSID James Morse
2023-03-21 11:29   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] x86/resctrl: Allow the allocator to check if a CLOSID can allocate clean RMID James Morse
2023-03-31 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:09     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] x86/resctrl: Move CLOSID/RMID matching and setting to use helpers James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] x86/resctrl: Add cpumask_any_housekeeping() for limbo/overflow James Morse
2023-03-21 13:21   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:09     ` James Morse
2023-03-21 15:14   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:09     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 14:25       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-05-25 17:32         ` James Morse
2023-03-31 23:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:10     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 23:36       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-05-25 17:32         ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI James Morse
2023-03-22 14:07   ` Peter Newman
2023-03-23  9:09     ` Peter Newman [this message]
2023-04-27 14:12       ` James Morse
2023-04-27 14:11     ` James Morse
2023-03-31 23:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:12     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_rmid_read() to sleep James Morse
2023-03-31 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:12     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read() James Morse
2023-03-31 23:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:19     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 23:40       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-05-25 17:31         ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_mounted checks explicit James Morse
2023-03-31 23:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:19     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 23:37       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-05-25 17:31         ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] x86/resctrl: Move alloc/mon static keys into helpers James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] x86/resctrl: Make rdt_enable_key the arch's decision to switch James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] x86/resctrl: Add helpers for system wide mon/alloc capable James Morse
2023-03-31 23:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:19     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] x86/resctrl: Add cpu online callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-03-31 23:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] x86/resctrl: Allow overflow/limbo handlers to be scheduled on any-but cpu James Morse
2023-03-21 15:12   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-21 15:25     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:20       ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] x86/resctrl: Add cpu offline callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-03-21 15:32   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:20     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 14:51       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-05 23:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:20     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks James Morse
2023-05-23 17:14 ` [PATCH v3 00/19] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking Tony Luck
2023-05-25 17:31   ` James Morse
2023-05-25 21:00     ` Tony Luck
2023-05-28 20:52       ` Drew Fustini

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