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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"open list:BLUETOOTH DRIVERS" <linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] tty_port: allow a port to be opened with a tty that has no file handle
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqLE_QRtoFPOsMgG+mumb=+zf1JFR4F7u4fuoBb+2on3VQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170106162635.19677-3-robh@kernel.org>

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> From: Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
>
> Let us create tty objects entirely in kernel space. Untested proposal to
> show why all the ideas around rewriting half the uart stack are not needed.
>
> With this a kernel created non file backed tty object could be used to handle
> data, and set terminal modes. Not all ldiscs can cope with this as N_TTY in
> particular has to work back to the fs/tty layer.
>
> The tty_port code is however otherwise clean of file handles as far as I can
> tell as is the low level tty port write path used by the ldisc, the
> configuration low level interfaces and most of the ldiscs.
>
> Currently you don't have any exposure to see tty hangups because those are
> built around the file layer. However a) it's a fixed port so you probably
> don't care about that b) if you do we can add a callback and c) you almost
> certainly don't want the userspace tear down/rebuild behaviour anyway.
>
> This should however be sufficient if we wanted for example to enumerate all
> the bluetooth bound fixed ports via ACPI and make them directly available.
> It doesn't deal with the case of a user opening a port that's also kernel
> opened and that would need some locking out (so it returned EBUSY if bound
> to a kernel device of some kind). That needs resolving along with how you
> "up" or "down" your new bluetooth device, or enumerate it while providing
> the existing tty API to avoid regressions (and to debug).
>
> Alan
> ---
>
> Alan, I need a proper patch with your S-O-B for this one.

Alan, can I get your S-o-B on this? Any comments on patches 1-5 in
particular (mostly #5) before I send out updated series?

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-13 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-06 16:26 [PATCH 0/9] Serial slave device bus Rob Herring
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 1/9] tty: move the non-file related parts of tty_release to new tty_release_struct Rob Herring
2017-01-08 22:42   ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 2/9] tty_port: allow a port to be opened with a tty that has no file handle Rob Herring
2017-01-13 16:46   ` Rob Herring [this message]
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 3/9] tty_port: make tty_port_register_device wrap tty_port_register_device_attr Rob Herring
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 4/9] tty: constify tty_ldisc_receive_buf buffer pointer Rob Herring
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 5/9] tty_port: Add port client functions Rob Herring
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 6/9] dt/bindings: Add a serial/UART attached device binding Rob Herring
2017-01-06 19:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-06 20:41     ` Rob Herring
2017-01-10 19:50   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2017-01-10 21:41   ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 7/9] serdev: Introduce new bus for serial attached devices Rob Herring
2017-01-07 14:02   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-12 20:13     ` Rob Herring
2017-01-08 22:41   ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-01-10 21:46   ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-12 19:53     ` Rob Herring
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 8/9] serdev: add a tty port controller driver Rob Herring
2017-01-07 14:11   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-12 16:01     ` Rob Herring
2017-01-13 15:04       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-13 15:28         ` Rob Herring
2017-01-13 15:55           ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-10 22:04   ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-14  2:54     ` Rob Herring
2017-01-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 9/9] tty_port: register tty ports with serdev bus Rob Herring
2017-01-06 19:25 ` [PATCH 0/9] Serial slave device bus Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-07 11:00 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-10 17:24   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-10 18:32     ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-01-08 22:46 ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-01-10 11:44 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-10 12:02   ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-01-10 12:10     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-10 12:20       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-10 12:40         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]   ` <CAL_JsqL-VMQ+zCTN+4+PPPCY+-askp=H908s8R=EjjytzuC8yw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <39C27218-E564-4C7D-A8CD-8D7F654EE2B3@goldelico.com>
2017-01-13 14:48       ` Rob Herring
2017-01-16  6:46         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-10 12:05 ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-01-10 22:05 ` Pavel Machek

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