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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:03:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod4vYiT-OnQ8gmhs+NurMV+kSFptMig4FJS7RAAcJJeDNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkoce41b-pJ5x=6nRhex_xBdC-+cYACBw9HKtA87H71A-Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 1:50 PM Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[...]

> >
> > The low and min limits have semantics similar to the v1's soft limit
> > for this situation i.e. letting the low priority job occupy top tier
> > memory and depending on reclaim to take back the excess top tier
> > memory use of such jobs.
>
> I don't get why low priority jobs can *not* use top tier memory?

I am saying low priority jobs can use top tier memory. The only
difference is to limit them upfront (using limits) or reclaim from
them later (using min/low/soft-limit).

> I can
> think of it may incur latency overhead for high priority jobs. If it
> is not allowed, it could be restricted by cpuset without introducing
> in any new interfaces.
>
> I'm supposed the memory utilization could be maximized by allowing all
> jobs allocate memory from all applicable nodes, then let reclaimer (or
> something new if needed)

Most probably something new as we do want to consider unevictable
memory as well.

> do the job to migrate the memory to proper
> nodes by time. We could achieve some kind of balance between memory
> utilization and resource isolation.
>

Tradeoff between utilization and isolation should be decided by the user/admin.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-12 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05 17:08 [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/11] mm: Define top tier memory node mask Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/11] mm: Add soft memory limit for mem cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/11] mm: Account the top tier memory usage per cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/11] mm: Report top tier memory usage in sysfs Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/11] mm: Add soft_limit_top_tier tree for mem cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/11] mm: Handle top tier memory in cgroup soft limit memory tree utilities Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/11] mm: Account the total top tier memory in use Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/11] mm: Add toptier option for mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim() Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/11] mm: Use kswapd to demote pages when toptier memory is tight Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/11] mm: Set toptier_scale_factor via sysctl Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/11] mm: Wakeup kswapd if toptier memory need soft reclaim Tim Chen
2021-04-06  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory Michal Hocko
2021-04-07 22:33   ` Tim Chen
2021-04-08 11:52     ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-09 23:26       ` Tim Chen
2021-04-12 19:20         ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-14  8:59           ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-15  0:42           ` Tim Chen
2021-04-13  2:15         ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-13  8:33         ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-12 14:03       ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 17:18 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 18:00   ` Yang Shi
2021-04-08 20:29     ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 20:50       ` Yang Shi
2021-04-12 14:03         ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2021-04-09  7:24       ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-15 22:31         ` Tim Chen
2021-04-16  6:38           ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-14 23:22       ` Tim Chen
2021-04-09  2:58     ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-09 20:50       ` Yang Shi
2021-04-15 22:25   ` Tim Chen

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