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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:24:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHABLBYU0UgzwOZi@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod69-GcS2W57hAUvjbWBCD6B2dTeVsFbtpQuZOM2DphwCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 08-04-21 13:29:08, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 11:01 AM Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> > The low priority jobs should be able to be restricted by cpuset, for
> > example, just keep them on second tier memory nodes. Then all the
> > above problems are gone.

Yes, if the aim is to isolate some users from certain numa node then
cpuset is a good fit but as Shakeel says this is very likely not what
this work is aiming for.

> Yes that's an extreme way to overcome the issue but we can do less
> extreme by just (hard) limiting the top tier usage of low priority
> jobs.

Per numa node high/hard limit would help with a more fine grained control.
The configuration would be tricky though. All low priority memcgs would
have to be carefully configured to leave enough for your important
processes. That includes also memory which is not accounted to any
memcg. 
The behavior of those limits would be quite tricky for OOM situations
as well due to a lack of NUMA aware oom killer.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05 17:08 [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/11] mm: Define top tier memory node mask Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/11] mm: Add soft memory limit for mem cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/11] mm: Account the top tier memory usage per cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/11] mm: Report top tier memory usage in sysfs Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/11] mm: Add soft_limit_top_tier tree for mem cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/11] mm: Handle top tier memory in cgroup soft limit memory tree utilities Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/11] mm: Account the total top tier memory in use Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/11] mm: Add toptier option for mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim() Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/11] mm: Use kswapd to demote pages when toptier memory is tight Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/11] mm: Set toptier_scale_factor via sysctl Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/11] mm: Wakeup kswapd if toptier memory need soft reclaim Tim Chen
2021-04-06  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory Michal Hocko
2021-04-07 22:33   ` Tim Chen
2021-04-08 11:52     ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-09 23:26       ` Tim Chen
2021-04-12 19:20         ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-14  8:59           ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-15  0:42           ` Tim Chen
2021-04-13  2:15         ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-13  8:33         ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-12 14:03       ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 17:18 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 18:00   ` Yang Shi
2021-04-08 20:29     ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 20:50       ` Yang Shi
2021-04-12 14:03         ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-09  7:24       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-04-15 22:31         ` Tim Chen
2021-04-16  6:38           ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-14 23:22       ` Tim Chen
2021-04-09  2:58     ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-09 20:50       ` Yang Shi
2021-04-15 22:25   ` Tim Chen

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