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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Robert Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linux-nvdimm] [PATCH v2 05/20] libnd, nd_acpi: dimm/memory-devices
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 11:43:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4hZsnFvZhdAAo4_oHGWbWCjVDQUwj8pDXHHW+wpYCiwgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1430504355.23761.153.camel@misato.fc.hp.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 11:22 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 14:24 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> Register the memory devices described in the nfit as libnd 'dimm'
>> >> devices on an nd bus.  The kernel assigned device id for dimms is
>> >> dynamic.  If userspace needs a more static identifier it should consult
>> >> a provider-specific attribute.  In the case where NFIT is the provider,
>> >> the 'nmemX/nfit/handle' or 'nmemX/nfit/serial' attributes may be used
>> >> for this purpose.
>> >  :
>> >> +
>> >> +static int nd_acpi_register_dimms(struct acpi_nfit_desc *acpi_desc)
>> >> +{
>> >> +     struct nfit_mem *nfit_mem;
>> >> +
>> >> +     list_for_each_entry(nfit_mem, &acpi_desc->dimms, list) {
>> >> +             struct nd_dimm *nd_dimm;
>> >> +             unsigned long flags = 0;
>> >> +             u32 nfit_handle;
>> >> +
>> >> +             nfit_handle = __to_nfit_memdev(nfit_mem)->nfit_handle;
>> >> +             nd_dimm = nd_acpi_dimm_by_handle(acpi_desc, nfit_handle);
>> >> +             if (nd_dimm) {
>> >> +                     /*
>> >> +                      * If for some reason we find multiple DCRs the
>> >> +                      * first one wins
>> >> +                      */
>> >> +                     dev_err(acpi_desc->dev, "duplicate DCR detected: %s\n",
>> >> +                                     nd_dimm_name(nd_dimm));
>> >> +                     continue;
>> >> +             }
>> >> +
>> >> +             if (nfit_mem->bdw && nfit_mem->memdev_pmem)
>> >> +                     flags |= NDD_ALIASING;
>> >
>> > Does this check work for a NVDIMM card which has multiple pmem regions
>> > with label info, but does not have any bdw region configured?
>>
>> If you have multiple pmem regions then you don't have aliasing and
>> don't need a label.  You'll get an nd_namespace_io per region.
>>
>> > The code assumes that namespace_pmem (NDD_ALIASING) and namespace_blk
>> > have label info.  There may be an NVDIMM card with a single blk region
>> > without label info.
>>
>> I'd really like to suggest that labels are only for resolving aliasing
>> and that if you have a BLK-only NVDIMM you'll get an automatic
>> namespace created the same as a PMEM-only.  Partitioning is always
>> there to provide sub-divisions of a namespace.  The only reason to
>> support multiple BLK-namespaces per-region is to give each a different
>> sector size.  I may eventually need to relent on this position, but
>> I'd really like to understand the use case for requiring labels when
>> aliasing is not present as it seems like a waste to me.
>
> By looking at the callers of is_namespace_pmem() and is_namespace_blk(),
> such as nd_namespace_label_update(), I am concerned that the namespace
> types are also used for indicating the presence a label.  Is it OK for
> nd_namespace_label_update() to do nothing when there is no aliasing?
>
>> > Instead of using the namespace types to assume the label info, how about
>> > adding a flag to indicate the presence of the label info?  This avoids
>> > the separation of namespace_io and namespace_pmem for the same pmem
>> > driver.
>>
>> To what benefit?
>
> Why do they need to be separated? Having alias or not should not make
> the pmem namespace different.

The intent is to maximize the number of devices that can be
immediately attached to nd_pmem and nd_blk without user intervention.
nd_namespace_io is a pmem namespace where the boundaries are 100%
described by the NFIT / parent-region.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-01 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 18:24 [PATCH v2 00/20] libnd: non-volatile memory device support Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] e820, efi: add ACPI 6.0 persistent memory types Dan Williams
2015-04-28 20:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:57     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-15 15:43   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-05-15 15:48     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-18 19:28       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] libnd, nd_acpi: initial libnd infrastructure and NFIT support Dan Williams
2015-04-30 23:23   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-01  0:39     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01  1:21       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-01 16:23         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-04 23:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-04 23:46             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15 19:44   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-05-15 20:41     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] nd_acpi, nfit-test: manufactured NFITs for interface development Dan Williams
2015-05-15 20:25   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-05-15 20:50     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] libnd: ndctl class device, and nd bus attributes Dan Williams
2015-05-15 21:00   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] libnd, nd_acpi: dimm/memory-devices Dan Williams
2015-05-01 17:48   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 18:22     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 18:19       ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 18:43         ` Dan Williams [this message]
2015-05-01 19:15           ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 19:38             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 20:08               ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] libnd: ndctl.h, the nd ioctl abi Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] libnd, nd_dimm: dimm driver and base libnd device-driver infrastructure Dan Williams
2015-05-20 16:59   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-20 17:02     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] libnd, nd_acpi: regions (block-data-window, persistent memory, volatile memory) Dan Williams
2015-04-29 15:53   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29 15:59     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-04 20:26   ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-09 23:55     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-28 18:36       ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-28 19:59         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-28 20:51           ` Linda Knippers
2015-05-28 20:58             ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] libnd: support for legacy (non-aliasing) nvdimms Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] pmem: use ida Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:25   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Toshi Kani
2015-04-29 18:59     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:53       ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-29 20:49         ` Linda Knippers
2015-04-29 21:36           ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] libnd, nd_pmem: add libnd support to the pmem driver Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:04   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:21     ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Phil Pokorny
2015-04-28 22:58       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29  0:17         ` Phil Pokorny
2015-04-29  0:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 15:55         ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:36           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] libnd, nd_acpi: add interleave-set state-tracking infrastructure Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] libnd: namespace indices: read and validate Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] libnd: pmem label sets and namespace instantiation Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] libnd: blk labels " Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] libnd: write pmem label set Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] libnd: write blk " Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] libnd: infrastructure for btt devices Dan Williams
2015-05-12 16:33   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Toshi Kani
2015-05-15  0:41     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15  4:25       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] nd_btt: atomic sector updates Dan Williams
2015-05-17  1:19   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-17  3:22     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-20 17:20       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-18 22:38     ` Verma, Vishal L
2015-04-28 18:26 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] libnd, nd_acpi, nd_blk: driver for BLK-mode access persistent memory Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:10   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:30     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 23:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 17:10         ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 19:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] libnd: non-volatile memory device support Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:59   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:06     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:28       ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 23:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-30 20:56           ` Ross Zwisler
2015-04-28 21:24 ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-28 22:15   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07  7:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-29  0:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-29  1:22   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-05  0:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-08  6:31       ` Williams, Dan J

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