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From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: <ahorn@deorth.org>, "Andre Hedrick" <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Dell vs. GPL
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:29:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKIEHNEAAA.davids@webmaster.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0306292357430.7687-100000@slick.sigje.org>


> Well, I couldn't possibly comment on that, but my original point stands;
> that pursuit of GPL violation must be pursued by the copyright _holder_,
> unless they assign that copyright to subsequent third-party beneficiaries.
> which technically I don't think they do, they merely grant a right to make
> copies in perpetuity, subject to the conditions of the GPL (or something
> like that)
>
> right ?

	If you phrase it as a pursuit of a license violation, yes. But that's not
what the suit would look like. You wouldn't be accusing them of violating
your copyright rights, you'd simply be accusing them of withholding from you
a benefit that was secured for you in a contract. That the contract involved
copyright rights is not important because you're not pursuing the copyright
rights.

	In other words, you're not accusing them of a copyright violation, you're
accusing them of a contract violation. Specifically, they entered into a
contract (which named you as an intended beneficiary), took what the
contract offered them but failed to provide you the benefit the contract
secured you.

	If I sell you my car, but the contract stipulates that you must let my
grandmother drive on the first Saturday of the month, and you don't let her
do that, she can sue you. She wouldn't be arguing that you stole the car or
defrauded me in the sale. She'd simply argue that you received valuable
compensation in exchange for a benefit you were to provide to her, and that
you failed to provide her that benefit, and thus you're liable for her
damages or must provide the benefit.

	DS


  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-30  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-28  5:51 Dell vs. GPL Fluke
2003-06-28  6:12 ` Joshua Penix
2003-06-28 15:05   ` Doug McNaught
2003-06-28 15:12     ` Svein Ove Aas
2003-06-28 15:18       ` Doug McNaught
2003-06-28 15:49         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-29  4:22       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-29 10:33         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-30  4:07           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  6:39             ` Miles Bader
2003-06-30  6:56               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  9:45                 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-09 23:28                   ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10  2:48                     ` Miles Bader
2003-07-10 14:41                       ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 15:05                         ` Gene Heskett
2003-07-10 15:20                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-10 15:52                             ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-07-10 19:04                           ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 19:22                             ` OT: " Dana Lacoste
2003-06-30 15:49                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 16:54                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 17:50                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 18:28                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 20:43                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 20:44                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 21:25                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 21:34                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01  5:03                             ` vlad
2003-07-01  5:27                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 12:50                             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 20:55                           ` Trever L. Adams
2003-06-30 20:44                         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-06-30 20:48                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01  5:53                             ` Anders Karlsson
2003-07-01  6:56                               ` jw schultz
2003-07-01  7:21                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 15:38                                 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-07-01 13:17                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-07-01 15:36                               ` vlad
2003-07-01 16:05                                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-07-01 16:45                                   ` Trever L. Adams
2003-07-01 17:45                                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-09 23:24                                 ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-01 12:46                           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 17:22             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-30 17:37               ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found]         ` <3BZo.5iM.27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-29 14:04           ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-28 18:54 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29 17:47   ` Fluke
2003-06-29 17:48     ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-29  4:16 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-29 11:49   ` Fluke
2003-06-29 21:45   ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  4:01     ` ahorn
2003-06-30  4:10       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  6:59         ` ahorn
2003-06-30  8:29           ` David Schwartz [this message]
2003-06-30  8:29             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  8:44               ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  5:59       ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  6:57         ` ahorn
2003-06-30  7:39           ` Anders Karlsson
2003-06-30  8:24           ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  9:02             ` root
2003-06-30  9:17               ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 15:57                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-30  4:23     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-14 20:35 ` Fluke
2003-06-29 14:24 Ricardo Galli
2003-06-29 19:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 19:58   ` Ricardo Galli
2003-06-29 20:21     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-29 20:42     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 20:57       ` Russell King
2003-06-29 21:21         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-30 23:14       ` David Weinehall
2003-06-29 20:02   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-06-29 20:54   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307020931260.1400-100000@humbolt.us.dell.com>
2003-07-02 16:25 ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found] <20030715191651.GA6946@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2003-07-17  3:15 ` Fluke

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