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From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: ahorn@deorth.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Dell vs. GPL
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:29:44 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10306300129070.5840-100000@master.linux-ide.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKIEHNEAAA.davids@webmaster.com>


Do not confuse contract and right to use license, they are legally
different.  There is no contract law in GPL.

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, David Schwartz wrote:

> 
> > Well, I couldn't possibly comment on that, but my original point stands;
> > that pursuit of GPL violation must be pursued by the copyright _holder_,
> > unless they assign that copyright to subsequent third-party beneficiaries.
> > which technically I don't think they do, they merely grant a right to make
> > copies in perpetuity, subject to the conditions of the GPL (or something
> > like that)
> >
> > right ?
> 
> 	If you phrase it as a pursuit of a license violation, yes. But that's not
> what the suit would look like. You wouldn't be accusing them of violating
> your copyright rights, you'd simply be accusing them of withholding from you
> a benefit that was secured for you in a contract. That the contract involved
> copyright rights is not important because you're not pursuing the copyright
> rights.
> 
> 	In other words, you're not accusing them of a copyright violation, you're
> accusing them of a contract violation. Specifically, they entered into a
> contract (which named you as an intended beneficiary), took what the
> contract offered them but failed to provide you the benefit the contract
> secured you.
> 
> 	If I sell you my car, but the contract stipulates that you must let my
> grandmother drive on the first Saturday of the month, and you don't let her
> do that, she can sue you. She wouldn't be arguing that you stole the car or
> defrauded me in the sale. She'd simply argue that you received valuable
> compensation in exchange for a benefit you were to provide to her, and that
> you failed to provide her that benefit, and thus you're liable for her
> damages or must provide the benefit.
> 
> 	DS
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-30  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-28  5:51 Dell vs. GPL Fluke
2003-06-28  6:12 ` Joshua Penix
2003-06-28 15:05   ` Doug McNaught
2003-06-28 15:12     ` Svein Ove Aas
2003-06-28 15:18       ` Doug McNaught
2003-06-28 15:49         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-29  4:22       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-29 10:33         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-30  4:07           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  6:39             ` Miles Bader
2003-06-30  6:56               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  9:45                 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-09 23:28                   ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10  2:48                     ` Miles Bader
2003-07-10 14:41                       ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 15:05                         ` Gene Heskett
2003-07-10 15:20                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-10 15:52                             ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-07-10 19:04                           ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 19:22                             ` OT: " Dana Lacoste
2003-06-30 15:49                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 16:54                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 17:50                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 18:28                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 20:43                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 20:44                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 21:25                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 21:34                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01  5:03                             ` vlad
2003-07-01  5:27                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 12:50                             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 20:55                           ` Trever L. Adams
2003-06-30 20:44                         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-06-30 20:48                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01  5:53                             ` Anders Karlsson
2003-07-01  6:56                               ` jw schultz
2003-07-01  7:21                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 15:38                                 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-07-01 13:17                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-07-01 15:36                               ` vlad
2003-07-01 16:05                                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-07-01 16:45                                   ` Trever L. Adams
2003-07-01 17:45                                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-09 23:24                                 ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-01 12:46                           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 17:22             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-30 17:37               ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found]         ` <3BZo.5iM.27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-29 14:04           ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-28 18:54 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29 17:47   ` Fluke
2003-06-29 17:48     ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-29  4:16 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-29 11:49   ` Fluke
2003-06-29 21:45   ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  4:01     ` ahorn
2003-06-30  4:10       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30  6:59         ` ahorn
2003-06-30  8:29           ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  8:29             ` Andre Hedrick [this message]
2003-06-30  8:44               ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  5:59       ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  6:57         ` ahorn
2003-06-30  7:39           ` Anders Karlsson
2003-06-30  8:24           ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30  9:02             ` root
2003-06-30  9:17               ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 15:57                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-30  4:23     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-14 20:35 ` Fluke
2003-06-29 14:24 Ricardo Galli
2003-06-29 19:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 19:58   ` Ricardo Galli
2003-06-29 20:21     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-29 20:42     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 20:57       ` Russell King
2003-06-29 21:21         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-30 23:14       ` David Weinehall
2003-06-29 20:02   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-06-29 20:54   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307020931260.1400-100000@humbolt.us.dell.com>
2003-07-02 16:25 ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found] <20030715191651.GA6946@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2003-07-17  3:15 ` Fluke

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