From: dean gaudet <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org> To: Dan Podeanu <pdan@spiral.extreme.ro> Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: Client receives TCP packets but does not ACK Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:35:08 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview] Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106171528130.312-100000@twinlark.arctic.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20010617224015.A8341@spiral.extreme.ro> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Dan Podeanu wrote: > Is there any logical reason why if, given fd is a connected, AF_INET, > SOCK_STREAM socket, and one does a write(fd, buffer, len); close(fd); > to the peer, over a rather slow network (read modem, satelite link, etc), > the data gets lost (the remote receives the disconnect before the last > packet). According to socket(7), even if SO_LINGER is not set, the data > is flushed in the background. suppose A writes B, and A closes its fd. suppose that B writes to A and it arrives at A before the A->B data has left the buffer. in that case A will RST and drop the data in its buffer, so you've lost the data you thought you had transmitted. > Is it Linux or TCP specific? Or some obvious techincal detail I'm missing? it's TCP. the linux specific behaviour (and the recommended behaviour now) is that above if the B->A traffic arrived before the close, but wasn't read by the application on A, then the RST will be sent immediately. this generally results in folks discovering their broken applications much earlier than on other stacks. it's basically a race condition as to when the B->A data arrives. the above is the reason apache uses at least 4 system calls to tear down a connection... with http/1.1 and pipelining it's totally valid for the B->A traffic to be sent regardless of what's happening in the A->B direction. (ditto for multiplexed protocols... and to some extent SMTP pipelining.) -dean
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-17 22:35 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2001-06-15 12:53 Heusden, Folkert van 2001-06-15 18:27 ` Mike Black 2001-06-15 18:39 ` Gérard Roudier 2001-06-15 19:12 ` Alan Cox 2001-06-17 18:17 ` Pavel Machek 2001-06-17 19:32 ` Alan Cox 2001-06-17 19:40 ` Dan Podeanu [not found] ` <200106172113.f5HLDhJ377473@saturn.cs.uml.edu> 2001-06-17 22:09 ` Dan Podeanu 2001-06-17 22:35 ` dean gaudet [this message] 2001-06-18 11:50 ` Jan Hudec 2001-06-18 16:17 ` dean gaudet 2001-06-18 16:48 ` Jonathan Morton 2001-06-18 22:30 ` dean gaudet 2001-06-18 23:43 ` Jonathan Morton 2001-06-19 2:46 ` dean gaudet 2001-06-20 21:01 ` David Schwartz -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below -- 2001-07-01 21:27 Nivedita Singhvi 2001-07-11 3:43 ` Robert Kleemann [not found] <E15BiHy-0002xC-00@the-village.bc.nu.suse.lists.linux.kernel> 2001-06-17 20:21 ` Andi Kleen [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106121720310.1152-100000@localhost.localdomain.suse.lists.linux.kernel> 2001-06-13 8:48 ` Andi Kleen 2001-06-13 16:09 ` Robert Kleemann 2001-06-13 0:26 Robert Kleemann 2001-06-15 3:50 ` Robert Kleemann 2001-06-15 12:44 ` Mike Black 2001-06-15 18:29 ` Albert D. Cahalan 2001-06-15 23:10 ` Robert Kleemann 2001-06-16 11:55 ` Mike Black 2001-06-16 23:56 ` Robert Kleemann 2001-06-27 1:04 ` Robert Kleemann
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