* RAID 5+0 support
@ 2006-01-19 16:52 govind raj
2006-01-19 17:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-19 17:26 ` Phillip Susi
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: govind raj @ 2006-01-19 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Hi all,
We are using EVMS 2.5.4 on Linux 2.6.12.6 kernel version.
We find that kernel modules are available for RAID0, 1, 5, 1+0 as part of
this kernel. But however, we do not find a similar module available for RAID
5+0. Can someone advise us of how we would be able to get this support added
into the kernel? If this is not required as a kernel module, how do we
create a RAID 5+0 using MD?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Govind
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* Re: RAID 5+0 support
2006-01-19 16:52 RAID 5+0 support govind raj
@ 2006-01-19 17:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-19 17:26 ` Phillip Susi
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Moffett @ 2006-01-19 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: govind raj; +Cc: linux-kernel
On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:52, govind raj wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are using EVMS 2.5.4 on Linux 2.6.12.6 kernel version.
>
> We find that kernel modules are available for RAID0, 1, 5, 1+0 as
> part of this kernel. But however, we do not find a similar module
> available for RAID 5+0. Can someone advise us of how we would be
> able to get this support added into the kernel? If this is not
> required as a kernel module, how do we create a RAID 5+0 using MD?
Raid math:
RAID(5+0) == RAID(5) + RAID(0)
Commands:
mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /
dev/sdc
mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sdd /dev/sde /
dev/sdf
mdadm --create /dev/md3 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md0 /dev/md1
I believe this is all amply documented on a variety of md websites.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
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* Re: RAID 5+0 support
2006-01-19 16:52 RAID 5+0 support govind raj
2006-01-19 17:12 ` Kyle Moffett
@ 2006-01-19 17:26 ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-19 18:07 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-19 18:36 ` Martin Drab
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Phillip Susi @ 2006-01-19 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: govind raj; +Cc: linux-kernel
Why on earth would you want to stripe two raid-5's instead of using one
raid-5 that is twice as big? You'd get more usable disk space that way.
govind raj wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are using EVMS 2.5.4 on Linux 2.6.12.6 kernel version.
>
> We find that kernel modules are available for RAID0, 1, 5, 1+0 as part
> of this kernel. But however, we do not find a similar module available
> for RAID 5+0. Can someone advise us of how we would be able to get
> this support added into the kernel? If this is not required as a
> kernel module, how do we create a RAID 5+0 using MD?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>
> Govind
>
>
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* Re: RAID 5+0 support
2006-01-19 17:26 ` Phillip Susi
@ 2006-01-19 18:07 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-19 18:36 ` Martin Drab
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lars Marowsky-Bree @ 2006-01-19 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Phillip Susi, govind raj; +Cc: linux-kernel
On 2006-01-19T12:26:10, Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Why on earth would you want to stripe two raid-5's instead of using one
> raid-5 that is twice as big? You'd get more usable disk space that way.
If redundancy is the goal - to be able to withstand two drive failures
-, RAID6 would be the considerably better choice.
Sincerely,
Lars Marowsky-Brée
--
High Availability & Clustering
SUSE Labs, Research and Development
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - A Novell Business -- Charles Darwin
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
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* Re: RAID 5+0 support
2006-01-19 17:26 ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-19 18:07 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
@ 2006-01-19 18:36 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-19 19:06 ` Phillip Susi
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Martin Drab @ 2006-01-19 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Phillip Susi; +Cc: govind raj, linux-kernel
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Phillip Susi wrote:
> Why on earth would you want to stripe two raid-5's instead of using one raid-5
> that is twice as big? You'd get more usable disk space that way.
Speed is the issue here, I believe. By stripping two RAID-5 arrays you
ought to get the reliability of the RAID-5 but with considerably higher
speed. That's basically why RAID-50 exists, I think.
Martin
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* Re: RAID 5+0 support
2006-01-19 18:36 ` Martin Drab
@ 2006-01-19 19:06 ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-19 20:14 ` Martin Drab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Phillip Susi @ 2006-01-19 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Drab; +Cc: govind raj, linux-kernel
Martin Drab wrote:
> Speed is the issue here, I believe. By stripping two RAID-5 arrays you
> ought to get the reliability of the RAID-5 but with considerably higher
> speed. That's basically why RAID-50 exists, I think.
One big raid-5 would have higher speed because it would have one more
disk allocated to storing data rather than more parity. The raid 5+0
isn't really going to be any more reliable because it can withstand a
single failure in either half, but not two failures in one half, so in
the face of a double failure, you have a 50/50 chance of one being in
each half.
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* Re: RAID 5+0 support
2006-01-19 19:06 ` Phillip Susi
@ 2006-01-19 20:14 ` Martin Drab
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Martin Drab @ 2006-01-19 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Phillip Susi; +Cc: govind raj, linux-kernel
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Phillip Susi wrote:
> Martin Drab wrote:
> > Speed is the issue here, I believe. By stripping two RAID-5 arrays you ought
> > to get the reliability of the RAID-5 but with considerably higher speed.
> > That's basically why RAID-50 exists, I think.
>
> One big raid-5 would have higher speed because it would have one more disk
> allocated to storing data rather than more parity. The raid 5+0 isn't really
> going to be any more reliable because it can withstand a single failure in
> either half, but not two failures in one half, so in the face of a double
> failure, you have a 50/50 chance of one being in each half.
Well, yes and no. See for instance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_50_.28RAID_5.2B0.29
Martin
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