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From: Javier Achirica <achirica@telefonica.net>
To: Daniel Ritz <daniel.ritz@gmx.ch>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-net <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jean Tourrilhes <jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com>,
	Mike Kershaw <dragorn@melchior.nerv-un.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.5] fixes for airo.c
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:24:41 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.30.0307212322440.336-100000@tudela.mad.ttd.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307212301.39264.daniel.ritz@gmx.ch>



On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Daniel Ritz wrote:

> On Mon July 21 2003 21:44, Javier Achirica wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Daniel Ritz wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon July 21 2003 13:00, Javier Achirica wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Daniel,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your patch. Some comments about it:
> > > >
> > > > - I'd rather fix whatever is broken in the current code than going back to
> > > > spinlocks, as they increase latency and reduce concurrency. In any case,
> > > > please check your code. I've seen a spinlock in the interrupt handler that
> > > > may lock the system.
> > >
> > > but we need to protect from interrupts while accessing the card and waiting for
> > > completion. semaphores don't protect you from that. spin_lock_irqsave does. the
> > > spin_lock in the interrupt handler is there to protect from interrupts from
> > > other processors in a SMP system (see Documentation/spinlocks.txt) and is btw.
> > > a no-op on UP. and semaphores are quite heavy....
> >
> > Not really. You can still read the received packets from the card (as
> > you're not issuing any command and are using the other BAP) while a
> > command is in progress. There are some specific cases in which you need
> > to have protection, and that cases are avoided with the down_trylock.
> >
>
> ok, i think i have to look closer...if the card can handle that then we don't need
> to irq-protect all the areas i did protect...but i do think that those down_trylock and
> then the schedule_work should be replaced by a simple spinlock_irq_save...
>
> i look closer at it tomorrow.
> you happen to have the tech spec lying aroung?

I have an old one, but I don't think that I'm allowed (by Cisco) to pass
it around.

> > AFAIK, interrupt serialization is assured by the interrupt handler, so you
> > don't need to do that.
> >
> > > > - The fix for the transmit code you mention, is about fixing the returned
> > > > value in case of error? If not, please explain it to me as I don't see any
> > > > other changes.
> > >
> > > fixes:
> > > - return values
> > > - when to free the skb, when not
> > > - disabling the queues
> > > - netif_wake_queue called from the interrupt handler only (and on the right
> > >   net_device)
> > > - i think the priv->xmit stuff and then the schedule_work is evil:
> > >   if you return 0 from the dev->hard_start_xmit then the network layer assumes
> > >   that the packet was kfree_skb()'ed (which does only frees the packet when the
> > >   refcount drops to zero.) this is the cause for the keventd killing, for sure!
> > >
> > >   if you return 0 you already kfree_skb()'ed the packet. and that's it.
> >
> > This is where I have the biggest problems. As I've read in
> > Documentation/networking/driver.txt, looks like the packet needs to be
> > freed "soon", but doesn't require to be before returning 0 in
> > hard_start_xmit. Did I get it wrong?
> >
>
> no, i got it wrong. but still...it's the xmit where the oops comes from....
>
> wait. isn't there a race in airo_do_xmit? at high xfer rates (when it oopses) the
> queue can wake right after it is stopped in the down_trylock section. so you can
> happen to loose an skb 'cos the write to priv->xmit is not protected at all and
> there should be a check so that only one skb can be queue there. no?
> (and then the irq-handler can wake the queue too)
>
> ok, i think i got it now. i'll do a new patch tomorrow or so that tries:
> - to fix the transmit not to oops
> - to avoid disabling the irq's whenever possible
> - using spinlocks instead of the heavier semaphores ('cos i think if it's done cleaner
>   than i did it now, it's faster than the semas, and to make hch happy :)

Yes! This is the race that may be causing problems. I'll try to fix it and
we may compare semaphore vs. spinlock implementation.

Javier Achirica


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-21 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-17 22:15 [PATCH 2.4] fixes for airo.c Daniel Ritz
2003-07-21 11:00 ` [PATCH 2.5] " Javier Achirica
2003-07-21 12:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-21 13:46     ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-21 15:08       ` Mike Kershaw
2003-07-21 18:56         ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-21 17:49   ` Daniel Ritz
2003-07-21 19:44     ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-21 21:01       ` Daniel Ritz
2003-07-21 21:24         ` Javier Achirica [this message]
2003-07-22  8:15         ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-23  9:36           ` Daniel Ritz
2003-07-23 10:26             ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-23 17:56               ` Daniel Ritz
2003-07-23 18:03                 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 18:20                   ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-23 18:10                 ` Javier Achirica
2003-07-23 18:20                   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 18:52                   ` Daniel Ritz
2003-07-23 20:43                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-23 21:19                   ` Daniel Ritz
2003-07-24 17:07                     ` Jeff Garzik

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