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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v3 07/40] console: introduce console_is_enabled() wrapper
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 14:32:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y25O1fi6hdfF7MMJ@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a64y6e9k.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Thu 2022-11-10 16:11:43, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2022-11-08, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> >> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> @@ -3021,7 +3021,7 @@ void console_stop(struct console *console)
> >>  {
> >>  	__pr_flush(console, 1000, true);
> >>  	console_lock();
> >> -	console->flags &= ~CON_ENABLED;
> >> +	WRITE_ONCE(console->flags, console->flags & ~CON_ENABLED);
> >
> > My first reaction is that using the atomic operation only for the
> > store side is suspicious. It is correct because the read is serialized
> > by console_lock(). But it is far from obvious why we need and can do
> > it this way.
> 
> The READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() usage is really about documenting data-race
> reads and the writes that they are racing with.
> 
> For WRITE_ONCE() the rule is:
> 
> - If console->flags is modified for a registered console, it is done
>   under the console_list_lock and using WRITE_ONCE().
> 
> If we use a wrapper for this rule, then we can also add the lockdep
> assertion that console_list_lock is held.
>
> For READ_ONCE() the rule is:
> 
> - If console->flags is read for a registered console, then either
>   console_list_lock must be held _or_ it must be read via READ_ONCE().
>
> If we use wrappers here, then we can use lockdep assertion on
> console_list_lock for the non-READ_ONCE wrapper, and scru_read_lock
> assertion for the READ_ONCE wrapper.

Exactly, all the assertions are one big advantage for hiding this into
an API.

> > It would deserve a comment. But there are several other writes.
> > Also it is not obvious why many other con->flags modifications
> > do not need this.
> >
> > I think about hiding this into an API. We could also add some
> > checks that it is used the right way. Also it might make sense
> > to avoid using the READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE by using
> > set_bit()/test_bit().
> 
> I do not see any advantage of set_bit()/test_bit(). They have the
> disadvantage that they only work with 1 bit at a time. And there are
> multiple sites where more than 1 bit is set/tested. It is important that
> the multi-bit tests are simultaneous.

Fair enough.

> > I would prefer to use the proposed API because it should make all
> > accesses more clear and safe. And most importantly, it would help use
> > to catch bugs.
> >
> > But I do not resist on it. The patch looks correct and we could do
> > this later. I could live with it if we add some comments above the
> > WRITE_ONCE() calls.
> 
> I do not want to do a full API replacement for all console->flags access
> in this series or at this time. I am concerned that it is taking us too
> far away from our current goal. Also, with the upcoming atomic/threaded
> model, all consoles need to be modified that want to use it anyway. So
> that would be a more appropriate time to require the use of new API's.

Fair enough.

> For console_is_enabled() I will add the srcu_read_lock check. I suppose
> I should also name the function console_srcu_is_enabled().
> 
> For the WRITE_ONCE() calls, I will add a static inline wrapper in
> printk.c that includes the lockdep console_list_lock assertion. Perhaps
> called console_srcu_write_flags(struct console *con, short flags).
> 
> In console_srcu_write_flags() and console_srcu_is_enabled() I can
> document their relationship and when they are to be used. Both these
> functions are used rarely and should be considered the exception, not
> the rule.
> 
> For code that is reading registered console->flags under the
> console_list_lock, I will leave the "normal access" as is. Just as I am
> leaving the "normal access" for non-registered console-flags as is. We
> can convert those to a new generic API later if we think it is really
> necessary.

Sounds reasonable.

The main motivation for introducing the wrappers is that there are
currently 40+ locations where console->flags are touched. It is easy
to miss something especially when we are reworking the locking around
this code. Some of the callers are outside kernel/printk/* which
even increases the risk of a misuse. The lockdep checks
would help us to catch potential mistakes.

Anyway, I am fine with adding the wrappers for the synchronized reads
later. This patchset is already big enough.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 14:15 [PATCH printk v3 00/40] reduce console_lock scope John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:15 ` [PATCH printk v3 01/40] rcu: implement lockdep_rcu_enabled for !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC John Ogness
2022-11-07 18:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-07 19:23     ` John Ogness
2022-11-08 19:27       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-09 17:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-08 10:29   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 02/40] serial: kgdboc: Lock console list in probe function John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:20   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 03/40] printk: Convert console_drivers list to hlist John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 04/40] printk: Prepare for SRCU console list protection John Ogness
2022-11-08 12:14   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 05/40] printk: fix setting first seq for consoles John Ogness
2022-11-08 12:20   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 06/40] um: kmsg_dump: only dump when no output console available John Ogness
2022-11-08 12:41   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 07/40] console: introduce console_is_enabled() wrapper John Ogness
2022-11-08 16:18   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 15:05     ` John Ogness
2022-11-11 13:32       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 08/40] printk: use console_is_enabled() John Ogness
2022-11-08 17:40   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 09/40] um: kmsg_dump: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 14:52   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-09 14:56   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-09 14:57     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 10/40] kdb: kdb_io: " John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:22   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09 14:59   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 11/40] um: kmsg_dumper: use srcu console list iterator John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:05   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 12/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: document console_lock usage John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09 15:19   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 13/40] tty: tty_io: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:20   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 14/40] proc: consoles: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:22   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 15/40] kdb: use srcu console list iterator John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:53   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09  9:27     ` John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:27       ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 16/40] printk: console_flush_all: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 17/40] printk: console_unblank: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 18/40] printk: console_flush_on_panic: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 19/40] printk: console_device: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 20/40] printk: __pr_flush: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 21/40] printk: introduce console_list_lock John Ogness
2022-11-10 12:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 22/40] console: introduce console_is_registered() John Ogness
2022-11-10 13:00   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 23/40] serial_core: replace uart_console_enabled() with uart_console_registered() John Ogness
2022-11-08  8:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-10 13:24     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 13:46       ` John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 24/40] tty: nfcon: use console_is_registered() John Ogness
2022-11-08  8:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-10 13:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 14:19     ` John Ogness
2022-11-10 17:50       ` Eero Tamminen
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 25/40] efi: earlycon: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 14:28   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 26/40] tty: hvc: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 14:52   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 27/40] tty: serial: earlycon: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:00   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 28/40] tty: serial: pic32_uart: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:01   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 29/40] tty: serial: samsung_tty: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:01   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 30/40] tty: serial: xilinx_uartps: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:04   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 31/40] usb: early: xhci-dbc: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:05   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 32/40] netconsole: avoid CON_ENABLED misuse to track registration John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:17   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 33/40] printk, xen: fbfront: create/use safe function for forcing preferred John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:34   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 16:03     ` John Ogness
2022-11-10 17:26       ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 22:37         ` John Ogness
2022-11-11 10:48   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 34/40] tty: tty_io: use console_list_lock for list synchronization John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 35/40] proc: consoles: use console_list_lock for list iteration John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 36/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: use console_list_lock for list traversal John Ogness
2022-11-09  9:06   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09  9:44     ` John Ogness
2022-11-10 18:00       ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 37/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: synchronize tty_find_polling_driver() and register_console() John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:13   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-10 18:03   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 38/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: use console_list_lock to trap exit John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:18   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-11  9:59   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 39/40] printk: relieve console_lock of list synchronization duties John Ogness
2022-11-07 16:30   ` John Ogness
2022-11-11 10:27     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-11 13:06   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 40/40] tty: serial: sh-sci: use setup() callback for early console John Ogness
2022-11-08  8:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-11 17:15   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-11 14:43 ` [PATCH printk v3 00/40] reduce console_lock scope Mathieu Desnoyers

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