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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/8] iov_iter: Improve page extraction (ref, pin or just list)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 05:21:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8/bWF6s8oPJdNRs@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230124102931.g7e33syuhfo7s36h@quack3>

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:29:31AM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> True but as John said sometimes we need to writeout even pinned page - e.g.
> on fsync(2). For some RDMA users which keep pages pinned for days or
> months, this is actually crutial...

I think we have to distinguish between short term (just FOLL_PIN)
and long term (FOLL_PIN | FOLL_LONGERM) pins.

For short term ones the proper thing to do in data integrity writeback
is to simply wait for the unpin.  For the long term pins that obviously
can't work.  The right answer for that is complicated and I don't have
a good answer yet.  The best one would probably to probibit them on
MAP_SHARED file backed mappings - this might break some existing
software, but that software is already so broken that this might be
best.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-24 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-20 17:55 [PATCH v7 0/8] iov_iter: Improve page extraction (ref, pin or just list) David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] iov_iter: Define flags to qualify page extraction David Howells
2023-01-21 13:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] iov_iter: Add a function to extract a page list from an iterator David Howells
2023-01-21 13:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 13:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 13:30   ` David Howells
2023-01-21 13:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 11:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 11:51   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 13:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 13:19     ` David Howells
2023-01-23 13:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 19:56         ` John Hubbard
2023-01-26 22:15         ` Al Viro
2023-01-26 23:41           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-27  0:05           ` David Howells
2023-01-27  0:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 13:38       ` David Howells
2023-01-23 14:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 14:48           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 16:11         ` Jan Kara
2023-01-23 16:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 23:07           ` John Hubbard
2023-01-24  5:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-24  6:55               ` John Hubbard
2023-01-23 12:00   ` David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] mm: Provide a helper to drop a pin/ref on a page David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] block: Rename BIO_NO_PAGE_REF to BIO_PAGE_REFFED and invert the meaning David Howells
2023-01-21 13:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23  9:38   ` David Howells
2023-01-23  9:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] block: Add BIO_PAGE_PINNED David Howells
2023-01-21 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] block: Make bio structs pin pages rather than ref'ing if appropriate David Howells
2023-01-21 13:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 11:28   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 14:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] block: Fix bio_flagged() so that gcc can better optimise it David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] mm: Renumber FOLL_GET and FOLL_PIN down David Howells
2023-01-20 18:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-20 19:18   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] iov_iter: Improve page extraction (ref, pin or just list) Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-23 16:42   ` Jan Kara
2023-01-23 17:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-23 22:53       ` John Hubbard
2023-01-24 10:29       ` Jan Kara
2023-01-24 13:21         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-01-23 16:38 ` David Howells
2023-01-23 16:42   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-23 17:25     ` Jan Kara
2023-01-24 10:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 17:19   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 18:04     ` Matthew Wilcox

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