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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/8] iov_iter: Improve page extraction (ref, pin or just list)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:31:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y862ZL5umO30Vu/D@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230120175556.3556978-1-dhowells@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 05:55:48PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
>  (3) Make the bio struct carry a pair of flags to indicate the cleanup
>      mode.  BIO_NO_PAGE_REF is replaced with BIO_PAGE_REFFED (equivalent to
>      FOLL_GET) and BIO_PAGE_PINNED (equivalent to BIO_PAGE_PINNED) is
>      added.

I think there's a simpler solution than all of this.

As I understand the fundamental problem here, the question is
when to copy a page on fork.  We have the optimisation of COW, but
O_DIRECT/RDMA/... breaks it.  So all this page pinning is to indicate
to the fork code "You can't do COW to this page".

Why do we want to track that information on a per-page basis?  Wouldn't it
be easier to have a VM_NOCOW flag in vma->vm_flags?  Set it the first
time somebody does an O_DIRECT read or RDMA pin.  That's it.  Pages in
that VMA will now never be COWed, regardless of their refcount/mapcount.
And the whole "did we pin or get this page" problem goes away.  Along
with folio->pincount.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-20 17:55 [PATCH v7 0/8] iov_iter: Improve page extraction (ref, pin or just list) David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] iov_iter: Define flags to qualify page extraction David Howells
2023-01-21 13:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] iov_iter: Add a function to extract a page list from an iterator David Howells
2023-01-21 13:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 13:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 13:30   ` David Howells
2023-01-21 13:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 11:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 11:51   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 13:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 13:19     ` David Howells
2023-01-23 13:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 19:56         ` John Hubbard
2023-01-26 22:15         ` Al Viro
2023-01-26 23:41           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-27  0:05           ` David Howells
2023-01-27  0:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 13:38       ` David Howells
2023-01-23 14:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 14:48           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 16:11         ` Jan Kara
2023-01-23 16:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 23:07           ` John Hubbard
2023-01-24  5:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-24  6:55               ` John Hubbard
2023-01-23 12:00   ` David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] mm: Provide a helper to drop a pin/ref on a page David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] block: Rename BIO_NO_PAGE_REF to BIO_PAGE_REFFED and invert the meaning David Howells
2023-01-21 13:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23  9:38   ` David Howells
2023-01-23  9:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] block: Add BIO_PAGE_PINNED David Howells
2023-01-21 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] block: Make bio structs pin pages rather than ref'ing if appropriate David Howells
2023-01-21 13:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 11:28   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 14:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] block: Fix bio_flagged() so that gcc can better optimise it David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] mm: Renumber FOLL_GET and FOLL_PIN down David Howells
2023-01-20 18:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-20 19:18   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 16:31 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-01-23 16:42   ` [PATCH v7 0/8] iov_iter: Improve page extraction (ref, pin or just list) Jan Kara
2023-01-23 17:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-23 22:53       ` John Hubbard
2023-01-24 10:29       ` Jan Kara
2023-01-24 13:21         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 16:38 ` David Howells
2023-01-23 16:42   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-23 17:25     ` Jan Kara
2023-01-24 10:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 17:19   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 18:04     ` Matthew Wilcox

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