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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: "Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)" <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Samsung SOC <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:SERIAL DRIVERS" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tty: serial: samsung_tty: remove spinlock flags in interrupt handlers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:10:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFRcYCMQrPXUG6ZU@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4771468d968a44789518bc547acf5f93@hisilicon.com>

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 06:36:39AM +0000, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Shevchenko [mailto:andy.shevchenko@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:41 PM
> > To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>; Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>;
> > Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>
> > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>; Greg
> > Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>; Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>;
> > linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>; Linux Samsung
> > SOC <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>; open list:SERIAL DRIVERS
> > <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>; Linux Kernel Mailing List
> > <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>; Arnd
> > Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] tty: serial: samsung_tty: remove spinlock flags in
> > interrupt handlers
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:02 AM Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 07:12:12PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > > Since interrupt handler is called with disabled local interrupts, there
> > > > is no need to use the spinlock primitives disabling interrupts as well.
> > >
> > > This isn't generally true due to "threadirqs" and that can lead to
> > > deadlocks if the console code is called from hard irq context.
> > >
> > > Now, this is *not* the case for this particular driver since it doesn't
> > > even bother to take the port lock in console_write(). That should
> > > probably be fixed instead.
> > >
> > > See https://lore.kernel.org/r/X7kviiRwuxvPxC8O@localhost.
> > 
> > Finn, Barry, something to check I think?
> 
> My understanding is that spin_lock_irqsave can't protect the context
> the console_write() is called in hardirq for threaded_irq case mainly
> for preempt-rt scenarios as spin_lock_irqsave doesn't disable irq in
> that case at all.

Forced threaded interrupts have so far run with interrupts enabled and
spin_lock_irqsave() would suffice on non-RT. This is about to change
though so that drivers don't need to worry about "threadirqs":

	https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210317143859.513307808@linutronix.de

> See:
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/locking/locktypes.html
> spinlock_t and PREEMPT_RT
> On a PREEMPT_RT kernel spinlock_t is mapped to a separate implementation
> based on rt_mutex which changes the semantics:
> Preemption is not disabled.
> The hard interrupt related suffixes for spin_lock / spin_unlock operations
> (_irq, _irqsave / _irqrestore) do not affect the CPU’s interrupt disabled
> state.
> 
> So if console_write() can interrupt our code in hardirq, we should
> move to raw_spin_lock_irqsave for this driver.

No, no. RT handles this by deferring console writes apparently.

> I think it is almost always wrong to call spin_lock_irqsave in hardirq.

Again, no. It's even been a requirement due to "threadirqs" in some
cases (e.g. hrtimers) up until now (or rather until the above patch is
in mainline).

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-19  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-15 18:12 [PATCH] tty: serial: samsung_tty: remove spinlock flags in interrupt handlers Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-15 18:16 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-16  9:02 ` Johan Hovold
2021-03-16  9:40   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-19  6:36     ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-03-19  8:10       ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2021-03-19 10:09         ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-19 15:05           ` Johan Hovold
2021-03-16  9:47   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-16  9:56     ` Johan Hovold
2021-03-16 10:11       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-16 11:25         ` Johan Hovold
2021-03-22 11:23 ` Johan Hovold

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