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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Enrico Granata <egranata@google.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	axboe@kernel.dk, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_blk: Add support for lifetime feature
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:44:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHarc5gGgjyQOaA+@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210412094217.GA981912@infradead.org>

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On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:42:17AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> A note to the virtio committee:  eMMC is the worst of all the currently
> active storage standards by a large margin.  It defines very strange
> ad-hoc interfaces that expose very specific internals and often provides
> very poor abstractions.  It would be great it you could reach out to the
> wider storage community before taking bad ideas from the eMMC standard
> and putting it into virtio.

As Michael mentioned, there is still time to change the virtio-blk spec
since this feature hasn't been released yet.

Why exactly is exposing eMMC-style lifetime information problematic?

Can you and Enrico discuss the use case to figure out an alternative
interface?

Thanks,
Stefan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-30 23:16 [PATCH] virtio_blk: Add support for lifetime feature Enrico Granata
2021-04-12  9:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-04-12  9:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-12 12:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-15 15:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-14  8:44     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2021-04-14 20:12       ` Enrico Granata
2021-04-15 15:57       ` Christoph Hellwig

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