From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jing2.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/7] kvm: x86: Add new ioctls for XSAVE extension
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 14:43:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YK5egUs+Wl2d+wWz@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <920df897-56d8-1f81-7ce2-0050fb744bd7@linux.intel.com>
On Wed, May 26, 2021, Liu, Jing2 wrote:
>
> On 5/25/2021 5:50 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 07, 2021, Jing Liu wrote:
> > > The static xstate buffer kvm_xsave contains the extended register
> > > states, but it is not enough for dynamic features with large state.
> > >
> > > Introduce a new capability called KVM_CAP_X86_XSAVE_EXTENSION to
> > > detect if hardware has XSAVE extension (XFD). Meanwhile, add two
> > > new ioctl interfaces to get/set the whole xstate using struct
> > > kvm_xsave_extension buffer containing both static and dynamic
> > > xfeatures. Reuse fill_xsave and load_xsave for both cases.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>
> > > ---
> > > arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h | 5 +++
> > > arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 70 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> > > include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 8 ++++
> > > 3 files changed, 66 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h
> > > index 89e5f3d1bba8..bf785e89a728 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h
> > > @@ -362,6 +362,11 @@ struct kvm_xsave {
> > > __u32 region[1024];
Hold up a sec. How big is the AMX data? The existing size is 4096 bytes, not
1024 bytes. IIRC, AMX is >4k, so we still need a new ioctl(), but we should be
careful to mentally adjust for the __u32 when mentioning the sizes.
> > > };
> > > +/* for KVM_CAP_XSAVE_EXTENSION */
> > > +struct kvm_xsave_extension {
> > > + __u32 region[3072];
> > Fool me once, shame on you (Intel). Fool me twice, shame on me (KVM).
> >
> > As amusing as kvm_xsave_really_extended would be, the required size should be
> > discoverable, not hardcoded.
> Thanks for reviewing the patch. When looking at current kvm_xsave structure,
> I felt confusing about the static hardcoding of 1024 bytes, but failed to
> find clue for its final decision in 2010[1].
Simplicitly and lack of foresight :-)
> So we'd prefer to changing the way right? Please correct me if I misunderstood.
Sadly, we can't fix the existing ioctl() without breaking userspace. But for
the new ioctl(), yes, its size should not be hardcoded.
> > Nothing prevents a hardware vendor from inventing a newfangled feature that
> > requires yet more space. As an alternative to adding a dedicated
> > capability, can we leverage GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID, leaf CPUID.0xD,
> Yes, this is a good way to avoid a dedicated capability. Thanks for the
> suggestion. Use 0xD.1.EBX for size of enabled xcr0|xss if supposing
> kvm_xsave cares both.
> > to enumerate the minimum required size and state
> For the state, an extreme case is using an old qemu as follows, but a
> new kvm with more future_featureZ supported. If hardware vendor arranges
> one by one, it's OK to use static state like X86XSaveArea(2) and
> get/set between userspace and kvm because it's non-compacted. If not,
> the state will not correct.
> So far it is OK, so I'm wondering if this would be an issue for now?
Oh, you're saying that, because kvm_xsave is non-compacted, future features may
overflow kvm_xsave simply because the architectural offset overflows 4096 bytes.
That should be a non-issue for old KVM/kernels, since the new features shouldn't
be enabled. For new KVM, I think the right approach is to reject KVM_GET_XSAVE
and KVM_SET_XSAVE if the required size is greater than sizeof(struct kvm_xsave).
I.e. force userspace to either hide the features from the guest, or use
KVM_{G,S}ET_XSAVE2.
> X86XSaveArea2 {
> ...
> XSaveAVX
> ...
> AMX_XTILE;
> future_featureX;
> future_featureY;
> }
>
> > that the new ioctl() is available if the min size is greater than 1024?
> > Or is that unnecessarily convoluted...
> To enable a dynamic size kvm_xsave2(Thanks Jim's name suggestion), if things
> as follows are what we might want.
> /* for xstate large than 1024 */
> struct kvm_xsave2 {
> int size; // size of the whole xstate
> void *ptr; // xstate pointer
> }
> #define KVM_GET_XSAVE2 _IOW(KVMIO, 0xa4, struct kvm_xsave2)
>
> Take @size together, so KVM need not fetch 0xd.1.ebx each time or a dedicated
> variable.
Yes, userspace needs to provide the size so that KVM doesn't unintentionally
overflow the buffer provided by userspace. We might also want to hedge by adding
a flags? Can't think of a use for it at the moment, though.
struct kvm_xsave2 {
__u32 flags;
__u32 size;
__u8 state[0];
};
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-26 14:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-07 15:42 [PATCH RFC 0/7] Introduce support for guest AMX feature Jing Liu
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] kvm: x86: Expose XFD CPUID to guest Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-07 3:27 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] kvm: x86: Introduce XFD MSRs as passthrough " Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-24 21:57 ` Jim Mattson
2021-06-02 3:12 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-23 17:50 ` Dave Hansen
2021-06-28 2:00 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-29 17:58 ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-06 7:33 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] kvm: x86: XSAVE state and XFD MSRs context switch Jing Liu
2021-02-07 11:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-08 3:35 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-08 10:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 17:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-08 17:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 18:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-08 18:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 18:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-22 8:51 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-22 8:36 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] kvm: x86: Add new ioctls for XSAVE extension Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-26 6:09 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-26 14:43 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2021-06-01 10:24 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-07 5:23 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-24 22:06 ` Jim Mattson
2021-05-26 6:11 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] kvm: x86: Revise CPUID.D.1.EBX for alignment rule Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-03 4:45 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] kvm: x86: Add AMX_TILE, AMX_INT8 and AMX_BF16 support Jing Liu
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] kvm: x86: AMX XCR0 support for guest Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-26 7:54 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-26 14:54 ` Sean Christopherson
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