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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 10:46:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYQcgdRShSji3LfM@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4jaCj=qDw-MHEcYjVGHYGvX8wbJ_d3kv5nnv7agHnMViQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 09:08:41AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> Yes, atomic clear+write new data. The ability to atomic clear requires
> either a CPU with the ability to overwrite cachelines without doing a
> RMW cycle (MOVDIR64B), or it requires a device with a suitable
> slow-path mailbox command like the one defined for CXL devices (see
> section 8.2.9.5.4.3 Clear Poison in CXL 2.0).
> 
> I don't know why you think these devices don't perform wear-leveling
> with spare blocks?

Because the interface looks so broken.  But yes, apparently it's not
the media management that is broken but just the inteface that fakes
up byte level access.

> All kernel accesses do use it. They either route to
> pmem_copy_to_iter(), or like dm-writecache, call it directly. Do you
> see a kernel path that does not use that helper?

No, sorry.  My knowledge is out of date.
(nova does, but it is out of tree, and the lack of using
copy_mc_to_kernel is the least of its problems)

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-04 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21  0:10 [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 1/6] dax: introduce RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag to preadv2() and pwritev2() Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 2/6] dax: prepare dax_direct_access() API with DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY flag Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-21 18:19     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 3/6] pmem: pmem_dax_direct_access() to honor the " Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-21 18:24     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 4/6] dm,dax,pmem: prepare dax_copy_to/from_iter() APIs with DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  0:49     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-22  1:41       ` correction: " Jane Chu
2021-10-22  5:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22 20:30         ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 5/6] dax,pmem: Add data recovery feature to pmem_copy_to/from_iter() Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  0:58     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 6/6] dm: Ensure dm honors DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY flag on dax only Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:31 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  1:37   ` Jane Chu
2021-10-22  1:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-22  5:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  5:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22 20:52       ` Jane Chu
2021-10-27  6:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-28  0:24           ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-28 22:59             ` Dave Chinner
2021-10-29 11:46               ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 16:57                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-29 19:23                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 20:08                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-31 13:27                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 18:53                 ` Jane Chu
2021-10-29 22:32                 ` Dave Chinner
2021-10-31 13:19                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-11-01  2:31                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-02  6:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-02 19:57               ` Dan Williams
2021-11-03 16:58                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-03 20:33                   ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04  8:30                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 12:29                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-04 16:24                       ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 17:43                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 17:50                           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 18:05                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-04 18:33                         ` Jane Chu
2021-11-04 19:00                           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 20:27                             ` Jane Chu
2021-11-05  0:46                               ` Dan Williams
2021-11-05  1:35                                 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-05  5:56                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-03 18:09               ` Jane Chu
2021-11-04  6:21                 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04  8:36                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 16:08                     ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 17:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-11-04  8:21                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-02 16:12             ` Dan Williams
2021-11-02 16:03           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-03 16:53             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-06  7:41             ` Lukas Straub

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