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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Cooper, Andrew" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Thoughts of AMX KVM support based on latest kernel
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 20:14:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YZQRK2EUyhy/I7n1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04978d6d-8e1a-404d-b30d-402a7569c1f0@redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 11/16/21 19:55, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > We can do that, but I'm unhappy about this conditional in schedule(). So
> > I was asking for doing a simple KVM only solution first:
> > 
> > vcpu_run()
> >          kvm_load_guest_fpu()
> >              wrmsrl(XFD, guest_fpstate->xfd);
> >              XRSTORS
> >          do {
> > 
> >             local_irq_disable();
> > 
> >             if (test_thread_flag(TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD))
> > 		switch_fpu_return()
> >                    wrmsrl(XFD, guest_fpstate->xfd);
> > 
> >             do {
> >                  vmenter();              // Guest modifies XFD
> >             } while (reenter);
> > 
> >             update_xfd_state();          // Restore consistency
> > 
> >             local_irq_enable();
> > 
> > and check how bad that is for KVM in terms of overhead on AMX systems.
> 
> I agree, this is how we handle SPEC_CTRL for example and it can be extended
> to XFD.  We should first do that, then switch to the MSR lists.  Hacking
> into schedule() should really be the last resort.

Agreed as well.

> >            local_irq_enable();     <- Problem starts here
> > 
> >            preempt_enable();	   <- Becomes wider here
> 
> It doesn't become that much wider because there's always preempt notifiers.
> So if it's okay to save XFD in the XSAVES wrapper and in
> kvm_arch_vcpu_put(), that might be already remove the need to do it
> schedule().

Assuming AMX can be accessed from (soft) IRQ context, hooking the preempt notifiers
isn't sufficient.  That's also why KVM waits until IRQs are disabled before
handling TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-16 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10 13:01 Thoughts of AMX KVM support based on latest kernel Liu, Jing2
2021-11-16 12:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-16 16:05   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-16 18:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-16 19:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 20:14         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2021-11-16 20:36         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-16 22:11           ` Nakajima, Jun
2021-11-17  7:39           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 20:12       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-16 23:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-16 19:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-17  4:52   ` Nakajima, Jun
2021-11-17  7:31     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-17 10:15       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-17 12:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-17 12:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-18 23:17           ` Nakajima, Jun
2021-11-19 10:13             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-19 15:41               ` Nakajima, Jun
2021-12-08  0:50                 ` Rewording of Setting IA32_XFD[18] (Re: Thoughts of AMX KVM support based on latest kernel) Nakajima, Jun
2021-12-08 13:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 21:53                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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