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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, bhe@redhat.com, pmladek@suse.com,
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	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/13] EDAC/altera: Skip the panic notifier if kdump is loaded
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:34:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yv1C0Y25u2IB7PCs@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46137c67-25b4-6657-33b7-cffdc7afc0d7@igalia.com>

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 03:45:30PM -0300, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
> But happens that in the refactor we are proposing [0], some notifiers
> should run before the kdump. We are basically putting some ordering in
> the way notifiers are executed, while documenting this properly and with
> the goal of not increasing the failure risk for kdump.

What is "the failure risk for kdump"?

Some of the notifiers which run before kdump might fail and thus prevent
the machine from kdumping?

> This patch is useful so we can bring the altera EDAC notifier to run
> earlier while not increasing the risk on kdump - this operation is a bit
> "delicate" to happen in the panic scenario. The origin of this patch was
> a discussion with Tony/Peter [1], guess we can call it a "compromise
> solution".

My question stands: if kdump is loaded and the s10_edac_dberr_handler()
does not read the the fatal errors and they don't get shown in dmesg
before the machine panics, how do you intend to show that information to
the user?

Because fatal errors are something you absolutely wanna show, at least,
in dmesg!

I don't think you can "read" the errors from vmcore - they need to be
read from the hw registers before the machine dies.

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-17 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 19:53 [PATCH v2 00/13] The panic notifiers refactor strikes back - fixes/clean-ups Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] ARM: Disable FIQs (but not IRQs) on CPUs shutdown paths Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-07 15:35   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] notifier: Add panic notifiers info and purge trailing whitespaces Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-03  9:21   ` Baoquan He
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] firmware: google: Test spinlock on panic path to avoid lockups Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-07 15:38   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-08  5:07   ` Evan Green
2022-08-08 15:14     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-08 15:26       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-08-08 15:37         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-10 12:54           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] soc: bcm: brcmstb: Document panic notifier action and remove useless header Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-20 23:00   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-07-21 13:17     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] alpha: Clean-up the panic notifier code Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] um: Improve panic notifiers consistency and ordering Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-07 15:40   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-09 18:09     ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-09 19:03       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-09 19:08         ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-09 19:45           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] parisc: Replace regular spinlock with spin_trylock on panic path Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-20  1:43   ` Jeroen Roovers
2022-07-21 13:19     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-21 13:45       ` Helge Deller
2022-07-21 14:00         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] tracing: Improve panic/die notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-03  9:36   ` Baoquan He
2022-08-03  9:52     ` Baoquan He
2022-08-03 11:44       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-07 15:46   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-16 14:14   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-16 14:57     ` Alan Stern
2022-08-16 15:52       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-16 20:12         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] notifier: Show function names on notifier routines if DEBUG_NOTIFIERS is set Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 20:33   ` Arjan van de Ven
2022-07-19 20:44     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 20:48       ` Arjan van de Ven
2022-07-19 21:00         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 22:04           ` Arjan van de Ven
2022-07-21 13:20             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] EDAC/altera: Skip the panic notifier if kdump is loaded Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-07 15:48   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-16 18:44   ` Dinh Nguyen
2022-08-16 20:16     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-17 17:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-17 18:45     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-17 19:34       ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2022-08-17 20:28         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-17 21:02           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-17 21:39             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-17 21:46               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-17 21:56                 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-17 22:00                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-17 22:09                     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-08-17 22:19                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-17 22:49                         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] video/hyperv_fb: Avoid taking busy spinlock on panic path Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-25 18:09   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-07-25 22:05     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] drivers/hv/vmbus, video/hyperv_fb: Untangle and refactor Hyper-V panic notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-07-25 18:55   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-07-19 19:53 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] panic: Fixes the panic_print NMI backtrace setting Guilherme G. Piccoli

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