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From: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>
To: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, surenb@google.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, tj@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	songmuchun@bytedance.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] sched/psi: add PSI_IRQ to track IRQ/SOFTIRQ pressure
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 15:33:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab445d4d-70d2-9e6f-dd1d-9e71f00c1796@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e5d41e2-5f89-8c52-11e5-0c55c5595a88@bytedance.com>

On 2022/7/22 15:14, Abel Wu wrote:
> On 7/22/22 2:13 PM, Chengming Zhou Wrote:
>> On 2022/7/22 11:30, Abel Wu wrote:
>>> Hi Chengming,
>>>
>>> On 7/21/22 12:04 PM, Chengming Zhou Wrote:
>>>> Now PSI already tracked workload pressure stall information for
>>>> CPU, memory and IO. Apart from these, IRQ/SOFTIRQ could have
>>>> obvious impact on some workload productivity, such as web service
>>>> workload.
>>>>
>>>> When CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING, we can get IRQ/SOFTIRQ delta time
>>>> from update_rq_clock_task(), in which we can record that delta
>>>> to CPU curr task's cgroups as PSI_IRQ_FULL status.
>>>
>>> The {soft,}irq affection should be equal to all the runnable tasks
>>> on that cpu, not only rq->curr. Further I think irqstall is per-cpu
>>> rather than per-cgroup.
>>
>> Although IRQ/SOFTIRQ is per-cpu, it's the rq->curr who own the CPU at the time
>> and pay for it, meanwhile other groups would be thought as PSI_CPU_FULL.
> 
> I don't think rq->curr pays for it if you mean consuming quota here.

Yes, it makes rq->curr's groups look more productive than it actually is,
which are clearly different from other groups.

> And it doesn't seem appropriate to let other groups treat it as cpu
> stall because the rq->curr is also the victim rather than the one
> causes stall (so it's different from rq->curr causing memstall and
> observed as cpustall by others).

IMHO, we don't care who causes stall, instead we care about what affects
workload productivity.


> 
>>
>> So I think it's reasonable to account this IRQ/SOFTIRQ delta to rq->curr's groups
>> as PSI_IRQ_FULL pressure stall. And per-cpu IRQ stall can also get from psi_system.
>>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-22  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-21  4:04 [PATCH 0/9] sched/psi: some optimization and extension Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 1/9] sched/psi: fix periodic aggregation shut off Chengming Zhou
2022-07-25 15:34   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-25 15:39   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-26 13:28     ` Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 2/9] sched/psi: optimize task switch inside shared cgroups again Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 3/9] sched/psi: move private helpers to sched/stats.h Chengming Zhou
2022-07-25 16:39   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 4/9] sched/psi: don't change task psi_flags when migrate CPU/group Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 5/9] sched/psi: don't create cgroup PSI files when psi_disabled Chengming Zhou
2022-07-25 16:41   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 6/9] sched/psi: save percpu memory when !psi_cgroups_enabled Chengming Zhou
2022-07-25 16:47   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 7/9] sched/psi: cache parent psi_group to speed up groups iterate Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 8/9] sched/psi: add kernel cmdline parameter psi_inner_cgroup Chengming Zhou
2022-07-25 16:52   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-26 13:38     ` [External] " Chengming Zhou
2022-07-26 17:54     ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-03 12:17       ` Chengming Zhou
2022-08-03 17:58         ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-03 19:22           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-08-03 19:48             ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-04 13:51             ` Chengming Zhou
2022-08-04 16:56               ` Johannes Weiner
2022-08-04  2:02           ` Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21  4:04 ` [PATCH 9/9] sched/psi: add PSI_IRQ to track IRQ/SOFTIRQ pressure Chengming Zhou
2022-07-21 10:00   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-21 22:10   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-22  3:30   ` Abel Wu
2022-07-22  6:13     ` Chengming Zhou
2022-07-22  7:14       ` Abel Wu
2022-07-22  7:33         ` Chengming Zhou [this message]
2022-07-25 18:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-26 13:55     ` [External] " Chengming Zhou
2022-07-27 11:28     ` Chengming Zhou
2022-07-27 13:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-07-27 15:09         ` Chengming Zhou
2022-07-27 16:07   ` Peter Zijlstra

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