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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'NeilBrown' <neilb@suse.de>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/3] nfsd: use __fput_sync() to avoid delayed closing of files.
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 18:27:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac74bdb82e114d71b26864fe51f6433b@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <170242728484.12910.12134295135043081177@noble.neil.brown.name>

...
> > PS: put it that way - I can buy "nfsd is doing that only to regular
> > files and not on an arbitrary filesystem, at that; having the thread
> > wait on that sucker is not going to cause too much trouble"; I do *not*
> > buy turning it into a thing usable outside of a very narrow set of
> > circumstances.
> >
> 
> Can you say more about "not on an arbitrary filesystem" ?
> I guess you means that procfs and/or sysfs might be problematic as may
> similar virtual filesystems (nfsd maybe).

Can nfs export an ext4 fs that is on a loopback mount on a file
that is remotely nfs (or other) mounted?

As soon as you get loops like that you might find that fput() starts
being problematic.

I'm also sure I remember that nfs wasn't supposed to respond to a write
until it had issued the actual disk write - but maybe no one do that
any more because it really is too slow.
(Especially if the 'disk' is a USB stick.)

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-15 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-08  3:27 [PATCH 0/3] nfsd: fully close all files in the nfsd threads NeilBrown
2023-12-08  3:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] nfsd: use __fput_sync() to avoid delayed closing of files NeilBrown
2023-12-08 15:01   ` Chuck Lever
2023-12-10 22:47     ` NeilBrown
2023-12-11 19:01       ` Chuck Lever
2023-12-11 22:04         ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 16:17           ` Chuck Lever
2023-12-11 19:11       ` Al Viro
2023-12-11 22:23         ` NeilBrown
2023-12-11 23:13           ` Al Viro
2023-12-11 23:21             ` Al Viro
2023-12-13  0:28               ` NeilBrown
2023-12-15 18:27                 ` David Laight [this message]
2023-12-15 19:35                   ` Chuck Lever III
2023-12-15 22:36                   ` NeilBrown
2023-12-15 18:28           ` David Laight
2023-12-16  1:50       ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-08  3:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] nfsd: Don't leave work of closing files to a work queue NeilBrown
2023-12-08  3:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] VFS: don't export flush_delayed_fput() NeilBrown
2023-12-08 11:40 ` [PATCH 0/3] nfsd: fully close all files in the nfsd threads Jeff Layton
2023-12-08 14:33 ` Jens Axboe

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