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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro.
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:18:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adave7or6q6.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071126102533.1c774870@freepuppy.rosehill.pdx.hemminger.net> (Stephen Hemminger's message of "Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:25:33 -0800")

 > Agreed. On first glance, I was intrigued but:
 > 
 > 1) Why is everyone so concerned that export symbol space is large?
 > 	- does it cost cpu or running memory?
 > 	- does it cause bugs?
 > 	- or are you just worried about "evil modules"?
 > 
 > 2) These aren't real namespaces
 > 	- all global names still have to be unique
 > 	- still have to handle the "non-modular build" namespace conflicts
 > 	- there isn't a big problem with conflicting symbols today.

Perhaps changing the name from "namespace" to "interface" would help?
Then a module could have something like

MODULE_USE_INTERFACE(foo);

and I think that makes it clearer what the advantage of this is: it
marks symbols as being part of a certain interface, requires modules
that use that interface to declare that use explicitly, and allows
reviewers to say "Hey why is this code using the scsi interface when
it's a webcam driver?"

 - R.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-26 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-22  2:43 [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [2/9] Fix duplicate symbol check to also check future gpl and unused symbols Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [3/9] modpost: Declare the modpost error functions as printf like Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 18:50   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-12-10 18:58     ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-12  1:37     ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [4/9] modpost: Fix format string warnings Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 18:50   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [5/9] modpost: Fix a buffer overflow in modpost Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 19:32   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-12-10 19:57     ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 20:07       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [6/9] Implement namespace checking " Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [7/9] Convert TCP exports into namespaces Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [8/9] Put UDP exports into a namespace Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [9/9] Add a inet namespace Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  3:03 ` [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-22  3:37   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-22  3:52 ` Dave Jones
2007-11-22  3:56 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22  8:41   ` Dave Young
2007-11-22 18:19     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23  2:06       ` Dave Young
2007-11-22 11:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-23  0:25     ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-23  1:36       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23  3:35         ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-23 19:53           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-24  4:53             ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-24 12:39               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-26  1:23                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22 11:46   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23  0:29     ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-25 20:29       ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-26  1:25         ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-26  5:58           ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-27  4:26             ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-27 10:50               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 13:58                 ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-27 14:12                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 14:36                     ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-27 20:02                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-28  1:34                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22 11:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-22 11:54   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 12:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-22 12:01 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-11-22 18:17   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-25 20:27 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-26  1:28   ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-26  6:15     ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-27  4:49       ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-27  5:35         ` Tom Tucker
2007-11-27  9:02           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 17:24             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-27 17:15           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-27 17:45             ` Tom Tucker
2007-11-27 18:59               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-28  1:27           ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-28  4:12             ` Tom Tucker
2007-11-27 15:43         ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-11-27 15:58           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 16:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-27 22:31         ` Jon Masters
2007-11-27 22:37           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 23:00             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-27 23:06               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-28 16:48                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-28 17:31                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-26 18:25     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-26 22:18       ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2007-11-27 19:00       ` Dave Jones
2007-11-27 21:09         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-27 21:15           ` Rick Jones
2007-11-27 21:38             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-28  2:01               ` Rick Jones
2007-11-27 21:25           ` Dave Jones
2007-11-27 23:00           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-29 16:53       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-30  2:18         ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-29  9:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-29 10:00   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-29 10:21     ` Arnd Bergmann

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