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From: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
To: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jgross@suse.com, Stefano Stabellini <stefano@aporeto.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/13] xen/pvcalls: implement poll command
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 16:13:17 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1709121610250.9439@sstabellini-ThinkPad-X260> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73a6ae0f-077c-9d42-fd56-0738ccb30cec@oracle.com>

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 09/12/2017 06:17 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +unsigned int pvcalls_front_poll(struct file *file, struct socket *sock,
> >>>>> +			       poll_table *wait)
> >>>>> +{
> >>>>> +	struct pvcalls_bedata *bedata;
> >>>>> +	struct sock_mapping *map;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +	if (!pvcalls_front_dev)
> >>>>> +		return POLLNVAL;
> >>>>> +	bedata = dev_get_drvdata(&pvcalls_front_dev->dev);
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +	map = (struct sock_mapping *) READ_ONCE(sock->sk->sk_send_head);
> >>>> I just noticed this --- why is it READ_ONCE? Are you concerned that
> >>>> sk_send_head may change?
> >>> No, but I wanted to avoid partial reads. A caller could call
> >>> pvcalls_front_accept and pvcalls_front_poll on newsock almost at the
> >>> same time (it is probably not the correct way to use the API), I wanted
> >>> to make sure that "map" is either read correctly, or not read at all.
> >> How can you have a partial read on a pointer?
> > I don't think that the compiler makes any promises on translating a
> > pointer read into a single read instruction. Of couse, I expect gcc to
> > actually do it without any need for READ/WRITE_ONCE.
> 
> READ_ONCE() only guarantees ordering but not atomicity. It resolves (for
> 64-bit pointers) to
> 
>         case 8: *(__u64 *)res = *(volatile __u64 *)p; break;
> 
> so if compiler was breaking accesses into two then nothing would have
> prevented it from breaking them here (I don't think volatile declaration
> would affect this). Moreover, for sizes >8 bytes  READ_ONCE() is
> __builtin_memcpy() which is definitely not atomic.
> 
> So you can't rely on READ_ONCE being atomic from that perspective.

I thought that READ_ONCE guaranteed atomicity for sizes less or equal to
the machine word size. It doesn't make any atomicity guarantees for
sizes >8 bytes.


> OTOH, I am pretty sure pointer accesses are guaranteed to be atomic. For
> example, atomic64_read() is READ_ONCE(u64), which (per above) is
> dereferencing of a 64-bit pointer in C.

I am happy to remove the READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE, if we all think it is
safe.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-12 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-31 22:57 [PATCH v3 00/13] introduce the Xen PV Calls frontend Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] xen/pvcalls: introduce the pvcalls xenbus frontend Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 02/13] xen/pvcalls: implement frontend disconnect Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-11 22:43     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-09  0:07       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 03/13] xen/pvcalls: connect to the backend Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-11 22:55     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-09  0:14       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 04/13] xen/pvcalls: implement socket command and handle events Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-13  0:42     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 23:20       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 05/13] xen/pvcalls: implement connect command Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-13  1:12     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 21:23       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 06/13] xen/pvcalls: implement bind command Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-13  1:22     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 21:46       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 07/13] xen/pvcalls: implement listen command Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-13  1:28     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 08/13] xen/pvcalls: implement accept command Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-15  2:00     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-08-15  2:04       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 21:58         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-09-08 22:16       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 09/13] xen/pvcalls: implement sendmsg Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-15  2:31     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 23:48       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 10/13] xen/pvcalls: implement recvmsg Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-15  2:39     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 23:11       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 11/13] xen/pvcalls: implement poll command Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-15 20:30     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 23:03       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-09-12 14:14         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-12 22:17           ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-09-12 23:04             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-12 23:13               ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2017-09-12 23:18                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 12/13] xen/pvcalls: implement release command Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-15 20:44     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-08 23:09       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-31 22:57   ` [PATCH v3 13/13] xen: introduce a Kconfig option to enable the pvcalls frontend Stefano Stabellini
2017-08-11 22:36   ` [PATCH v3 01/13] xen/pvcalls: introduce the pvcalls xenbus frontend Boris Ostrovsky
2017-08-10 15:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] introduce the Xen PV Calls frontend Boris Ostrovsky
2017-08-10 18:15   ` Stefano Stabellini

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