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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/31] arm64: Kernel booting and initialisation
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:21:24 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1208171407540.1541@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201208171120.40740.arnd@arndb.de>

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Thursday 16 August 2012, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > Some people will want to use bzip2 or whatever other decompressor du 
> > jour.  Maybe this shouldn't be gzip specific, or just presented as a 
> > possible option?
> 
> Good point. Whether this should be part of this document depends on
> what assumptions we make about the boot loader getting the image
> in the first place.
> 
> In the strict sense, we are documenting the interface between the boot
> loader and the kernel here, which already specifies that  the kernel
> must be uncompressed by the time we enter it. If the boot loader wants
> to add its own encryption or compression methods, or its own headers
> in front of the binary, the boot protocol isn't really impacted.

Right.  And someone else will insist on wrapping the kernel into a boot 
loader specific image format e.g. u-Boot.  If all those variations could 
be kept out of the kernel build that would be a good thing.

That means the kernel should be wrapped/compressed/scrambled at 
installation time, not at build time.  This way the kernel image remains 
universal and flexibility in its installation is possible.

> That said, I think it's a good idea to also specify what kind of 
> format we want to be used, e.g. a stripped ELF Image compressed with 
> one of gzip/bzip2/lzo/xz and with no other headers added, on a 
> vfat/ext4/btrfs formatted file system. There are probably a lot of 
> other things one might want to specify if we go down this route. Or we 
> could refer to the UEFI spec and mandate that the same format that 
> UEFI uses should be used here independent of what boot loader is used. 
> I think we can still allow other ways to get to the image for deeply 
> embedded systems, e.g. linking the kernel into the boot loader as a 
> blob on tightly constrained systems. For that case, we'd only specify 
> the interface between boot loader and kernel as described above.

I don't think we'll have to concern ourselves with tightly constrained 
systems that much on ARM64.


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-17 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-14 17:52 [PATCH v2 00/31] AArch64 Linux kernel port Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/31] arm64: Assembly macros and definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 12:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/31] arm64: Kernel booting and initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 23:06   ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-15 17:37     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 19:03       ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-15 19:53         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 13:20   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-15 17:06     ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-16 12:53     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-16 18:59   ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-08-17 11:20     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17 13:45       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17 18:21       ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2012-08-17  8:56   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-17  9:41   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-08-17 10:05     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17 10:10       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-08-17 13:13         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-17 13:48           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-24  9:50           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/31] arm64: Exception handling Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 23:29   ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-14 23:47     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-08-15 13:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 10:05     ` Will Deacon
2012-08-16 11:54       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/31] arm64: MMU definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 13:30   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-15 13:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 16:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-08-15 16:45       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17  9:04   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-17  9:21     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17  9:38       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/31] arm64: MMU initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17 10:06   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-08-17 10:15     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17 10:25       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/31] arm64: MMU fault handling and page table management Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 13:47   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17 16:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/31] arm64: Process management Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 23:50   ` Olof Johansson
2012-09-14 17:33     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-16  0:29       ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-15 13:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17 16:15     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-16 15:09   ` Tobias Klauser
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/31] arm64: CPU support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15  0:10   ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-20 15:57     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-20 20:47       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21  9:50         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-14 17:38     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 13:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-20 16:00     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/31] arm64: Cache maintenance routines Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17  9:57   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-08-17 10:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17 10:12       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/31] arm64: TLB maintenance functionality Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/31] arm64: IRQ handling Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 23:22   ` Aaro Koskinen
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 12/31] arm64: Atomic operations Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15  0:21   ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 13/31] arm64: Device specific operations Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15  0:33   ` Olof Johansson
2012-09-14 17:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-14 17:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-14 17:39         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-16  0:28           ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-15 16:13   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17  9:19   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 14/31] arm64: DMA mapping API Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15  0:40   ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-21 13:05     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 16:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21 12:59     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 15/31] arm64: SMP support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15  0:49   ` Olof Johansson
2012-08-15 13:04   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17  9:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-17  9:32     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-17  9:39       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 16/31] arm64: ELF definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 14:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 10:23     ` Will Deacon
2012-08-16 12:37       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21 16:06         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-21 18:17           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-08-21 18:27             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-21 18:53               ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-21 20:17           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-05 19:56             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 17/31] arm64: System calls handling Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 14:22   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21 17:51     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-21 20:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21 22:01         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-22  7:56           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-22 10:29             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-22 12:27               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-22 17:13                 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-03 11:48                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-03 12:39                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 18/31] arm64: VDSO support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 19/31] arm64: Signal handling support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 20/31] arm64: User access library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 14:49   ` [PATCH v2 20/31] arm64: User access library function Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-03 12:58     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-05 19:13     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-05 21:01       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-05 21:05         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-06  8:36           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 21/31] arm64: 32-bit (compat) applications support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 14:34   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 10:28     ` Will Deacon
2012-08-16 12:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-23  6:46       ` PER_LINUX32, Was: " Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-23 10:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-28 18:28         ` Jiri Kosina
2012-08-24 10:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-26  4:49       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-20 10:53   ` Pavel Machek
2012-08-20 20:34     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21 10:28       ` Pavel Machek
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 22/31] arm64: Floating point and SIMD Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 14:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 23/31] arm64: Debugging support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 10:47     ` Will Deacon
2012-08-16 12:49       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17  7:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-20  9:07           ` Will Deacon
2012-08-20  9:27             ` Will Deacon
2012-08-20 20:10               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-21  8:58                 ` Will Deacon
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 24/31] arm64: Add support for /proc/sys/debug/exception-trace Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 25/31] arm64: Performance counters support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 10:51     ` Will Deacon
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 26/31] arm64: Miscellaneous library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 10:57     ` Will Deacon
2012-08-16 13:00       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 14:11         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 27/31] arm64: Loadable modules Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-15 15:35     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 16:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 28/31] arm64: Generic timers support Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:52   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-16 12:40   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-17  9:29   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-17 10:21   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-08-21 19:20   ` Christopher Covington
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 29/31] arm64: Miscellaneous header files Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 30/31] arm64: Build infrastructure Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 21:01   ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-08-15 16:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17  9:32   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-08-17  9:46     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-14 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 31/31] arm64: MAINTAINERS update Catalin Marinas
2012-08-15 15:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17  9:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/31] AArch64 Linux kernel port Tony Lindgren

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