Re: [RFC v4]update broken web addresses in the kernel.

From: Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>
To: "Justin P. Mattock" <justinmattock@gmail.com>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	trivial@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Dimitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v4]update broken web addresses in the kernel.
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:37:57 +1000 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.00.1009281119570.276@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CA0CB0F.3060303@gmail.com>

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Justin P. Mattock wrote:

> On 09/27/2010 09:03 AM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 11:10 -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:31:15AM -0700, Justin P. Mattock wrote:
> > > > Below is an updated patch from the original fixing broken web 
> > > > addresses in the kernel. Thanks for all the help and info on this 
> > > > to everybody.. Hopefully I didnt miss any of them(if so let me 
> > > > know, and I'll resend).
> > > Changing a URL for a relocated page is one thing, but removing links 
> > > isn't necessarily a great idea.  Even if the site is technically 
> > > gone, it may be possible to find information e.g through the 
> > > Internet Archive Wayback Machine.
> > 
> > Perhaps it'd be better to scrape the contents of the various web 
> > pages, collect them somewhere like wiki.kernel.org and encourage 
> > others to put new contributions in that site.

The copyright problem aside, this might be a good idea for material not 
already archived but I don't think it makes sense to start a new 
archive when archive.org (or other) has the information.

And which version(s) do you scrape? I discussed some problems with 
changing URLs in another thread: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/22/22

Anyway, without knowing what future archive(s) would be available or 
relevant to any given URL in the future, I think the best we might do is a 
"Retrieved on YYYY-MM-DD" qualification for new URLs.

> 
> 
> yeah I think somebody was saying something about having a separate file, 
> with all the web addresses in them or something...In any case, up to you 
> guys..

I don't see how moving the addresses would help.
And would it not make the information harder to find?

Finn

> 
> Justin P. Mattock
> 