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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, debug: allow suppressing panic on CONFIG_DEBUG_VM checks
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 17:51:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2bf7ae9-983d-6c20-0781-7f37a4454bfd@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg+PHQ9PhTeQOb7Fh5Qf3zkzG5J1h3D=eOY-2AsYXhU4Q@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, 22 May 2023, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:39 AM David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think VM_BUG_ON*() and friends are used to crash the kernel for
> > debugging so that we get a crash dump and because some variants don't
> > exist for VM_WARN_ON().
> 
> I do think that from a VM developer standpoint, I think it should be
> fine to just effectively turn VM_BUG_ON() into WARN_ON_ONCE() together
> with panic_on_warn.
> 
> Maybe we could even extend 'panic_on_warn' to be a bitmap and
> effectively have a "don't panic on non-VM warnings" option.
> 

I hadn't thought of that approach, it would definitely help us achieve our 
goal of emitting warnings on a small set of production hosts that we don't 
want to crash.  It's also very clean.

Right now kernel.panic_on_warn can either be 0 or 1.  We can keep the 
lowest bit to be "panic on all warnings" and then bit-1 as "panic on debug 
VM warnings."  When CONFIG_DEBUG_VM is enabled, set the new bit by 
default so there's no behavior change.

Then, we can keep VM_BUG_ON*() and friends around and extend them to check 
whether they should BUG() after the WARN_ON(1) or not.

On our production hosts, we'll just set kernel.panic_on_oom to 0.

I'll give it a few days to see if anybody else has any comments or 
concerns; if not, I'll send a v2 based on this.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-23  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-21 23:07 [patch] mm, debug: allow suppressing panic on CONFIG_DEBUG_VM checks David Rientjes
2023-05-22  9:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-22 18:39   ` David Rientjes
2023-05-22 18:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-23  0:51       ` David Rientjes [this message]
2023-05-23  1:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-24  0:53           ` David Rientjes
2023-05-24  8:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-24 11:44             ` Justin Forbes
2023-05-23  7:46       ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-23  3:43     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-24  0:54       ` David Rientjes

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