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* [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
@ 2013-01-30  1:25 Soren Brinkmann
  2013-02-08  2:17 ` Sören Brinkmann
       [not found] ` <20130320001609.8663.21043@quantum>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Soren Brinkmann @ 2013-01-30  1:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mturquette; +Cc: Soren Brinkmann, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

Use the DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST macro to calculate divider values and minimize
rounding errors.

Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>
---
Hi,

I just came across this behavior:
I'm using the clk-divider as cpuclock which can be scaled through cpufreq.
During boot I create an opp table which in this case holds the frequencies [MHz]
666, 333 and 222. To make sure those are actually valid frequencies I call
clk_round_rate().
I added a debug line in clk-divider.c:clk_divider_bestdiv() before the return
in line 163 giving me:
	prate:1333333320, rate:333333330, div:4
for adding the 333 MHz operating point.

In the running system this gives me:
zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_frequencies 
222222 333333 666666 
zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq 
 666666

 So far, so good. But now, let's scale the frequency:
zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 333333 > scaling_setspeed 
zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
 266666

And the corresponding debug line:
	prate:1333333320, rate:333333000, div:5

So, with DIV_ROUND_UP an actual divider of 4.00000396 becomes 5, resulting in a
huge error.

	Regards,
	Sören

 drivers/clk/clk-divider.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c b/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
index a9204c6..32e1b6a 100644
--- a/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
+++ b/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
@@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ static int clk_divider_bestdiv(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long rate,
 
 	if (!(__clk_get_flags(hw->clk) & CLK_SET_RATE_PARENT)) {
 		parent_rate = *best_parent_rate;
-		bestdiv = DIV_ROUND_UP(parent_rate, rate);
+		bestdiv = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(parent_rate, rate);
 		bestdiv = bestdiv == 0 ? 1 : bestdiv;
 		bestdiv = bestdiv > maxdiv ? maxdiv : bestdiv;
 		return bestdiv;
@@ -207,7 +207,7 @@ static int clk_divider_set_rate(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long rate,
 	unsigned long flags = 0;
 	u32 val;
 
-	div = parent_rate / rate;
+	div = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(parent_rate, rate);
 	value = _get_val(divider, div);
 
 	if (value > div_mask(divider))
-- 
1.8.1.2



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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-01-30  1:25 [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST Soren Brinkmann
@ 2013-02-08  2:17 ` Sören Brinkmann
       [not found] ` <20130320001609.8663.21043@quantum>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sören Brinkmann @ 2013-02-08  2:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mturquette; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

ping?

Any opinions?

	Thanks,
	Sören

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:25:44PM -0800, Soren Brinkmann wrote:
> Use the DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST macro to calculate divider values and minimize
> rounding errors.
> 
> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>
> ---
> Hi,
> 
> I just came across this behavior:
> I'm using the clk-divider as cpuclock which can be scaled through cpufreq.
> During boot I create an opp table which in this case holds the frequencies [MHz]
> 666, 333 and 222. To make sure those are actually valid frequencies I call
> clk_round_rate().
> I added a debug line in clk-divider.c:clk_divider_bestdiv() before the return
> in line 163 giving me:
> 	prate:1333333320, rate:333333330, div:4
> for adding the 333 MHz operating point.
> 
> In the running system this gives me:
> zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_frequencies 
> 222222 333333 666666 
> zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq 
>  666666
> 
>  So far, so good. But now, let's scale the frequency:
> zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 333333 > scaling_setspeed 
> zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
>  266666
> 
> And the corresponding debug line:
> 	prate:1333333320, rate:333333000, div:5
> 
> So, with DIV_ROUND_UP an actual divider of 4.00000396 becomes 5, resulting in a
> huge error.
> 
> 	Regards,
> 	Sören
> 
>  drivers/clk/clk-divider.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c b/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
> index a9204c6..32e1b6a 100644
> --- a/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
> +++ b/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
> @@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ static int clk_divider_bestdiv(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long rate,
>  
>  	if (!(__clk_get_flags(hw->clk) & CLK_SET_RATE_PARENT)) {
>  		parent_rate = *best_parent_rate;
> -		bestdiv = DIV_ROUND_UP(parent_rate, rate);
> +		bestdiv = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(parent_rate, rate);
>  		bestdiv = bestdiv == 0 ? 1 : bestdiv;
>  		bestdiv = bestdiv > maxdiv ? maxdiv : bestdiv;
>  		return bestdiv;
> @@ -207,7 +207,7 @@ static int clk_divider_set_rate(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long rate,
>  	unsigned long flags = 0;
>  	u32 val;
>  
> -	div = parent_rate / rate;
> +	div = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(parent_rate, rate);
>  	value = _get_val(divider, div);
>  
>  	if (value > div_mask(divider))
> -- 
> 1.8.1.2
> 
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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
       [not found] ` <20130320001609.8663.21043@quantum>
@ 2013-03-20 16:32   ` Sören Brinkmann
  2013-03-20 18:50     ` Sascha Hauer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sören Brinkmann @ 2013-03-20 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Turquette; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

Hi Mike,

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:16:09PM -0700, Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Soren Brinkmann (2013-01-29 17:25:44)
> > Use the DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST macro to calculate divider values and minimize
> > rounding errors.
> >
> > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>
> > ---
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just came across this behavior:
> > I'm using the clk-divider as cpuclock which can be scaled through cpufreq.
> > During boot I create an opp table which in this case holds the frequencies [MHz]
> > 666, 333 and 222. To make sure those are actually valid frequencies I call
> > clk_round_rate().
> > I added a debug line in clk-divider.c:clk_divider_bestdiv() before the return
> > in line 163 giving me:
> >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333330, div:4
> > for adding the 333 MHz operating point.
> >
> > In the running system this gives me:
> > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_frequencies
> > 222222 333333 666666
> > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> >  666666
> >
> >  So far, so good. But now, let's scale the frequency:
> > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 333333 > scaling_setspeed
> > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> >  266666
> >
> > And the corresponding debug line:
> >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333000, div:5
> >
> > So, with DIV_ROUND_UP an actual divider of 4.00000396 becomes 5, resulting in a
> > huge error.
> >
>
> Soren,
>
> Thanks for the patch, and apologies for it getting lost for so long.  I
> think that your issue is more about policy.  E.g. should we round the
> divider up or round the divider down?  The correct answer will vary from
> platform to platform and the clk.h api doesn't specify how
> clk_round_rate should round, other than it must specify a rate that the
> clock can actually run at.
Sure, my problem seems to be caused by different subsystems using a different resolution for clock frequencies.

>
> Unless everyone can agree that DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST gives them what they
> want I'm more inclined to make this behavior a flag specific to struct
> clk-divider.  E.g. CLK_DIVIDER_ROUND_CLOSEST.
My understanding would have been, that clk_round_rate() gives me a frequency as close to the requested one as possible. If the caller doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one. And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.

Another issue with the current implmentation:
clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
clk_divider_set_rate() does plain integer divisions. IMHO, that should cause the actually set frequency to differ from what round_rate() returns, and in that case it is even higher than the expected.

> Care to take a crack at that approach?
If a new flag is the preferred solution, I'll sure do that.

        Sören

>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> >         Regards,
> >         Sören
> >
> >  drivers/clk/clk-divider.c | 4 ++--
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c b/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
> > index a9204c6..32e1b6a 100644
> > --- a/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
> > +++ b/drivers/clk/clk-divider.c
> > @@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ static int clk_divider_bestdiv(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long rate,
> >
> >         if (!(__clk_get_flags(hw->clk) & CLK_SET_RATE_PARENT)) {
> >                 parent_rate = *best_parent_rate;
> > -               bestdiv = DIV_ROUND_UP(parent_rate, rate);
> > +               bestdiv = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(parent_rate, rate);
> >                 bestdiv = bestdiv == 0 ? 1 : bestdiv;
> >                 bestdiv = bestdiv > maxdiv ? maxdiv : bestdiv;
> >                 return bestdiv;
> > @@ -207,7 +207,7 @@ static int clk_divider_set_rate(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long rate,
> >         unsigned long flags = 0;
> >         u32 val;
> >
> > -       div = parent_rate / rate;
> > +       div = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(parent_rate, rate);
> >         value = _get_val(divider, div);
> >
> >         if (value > div_mask(divider))
> > --
> > 1.8.1.2
>


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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-20 16:32   ` Sören Brinkmann
@ 2013-03-20 18:50     ` Sascha Hauer
  2013-03-21  9:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
  2013-03-21 16:36       ` Sören Brinkmann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Hauer @ 2013-03-20 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sören Brinkmann; +Cc: Mike Turquette, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:16:09PM -0700, Mike Turquette wrote:
> > Quoting Soren Brinkmann (2013-01-29 17:25:44)
> > > Use the DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST macro to calculate divider values and minimize
> > > rounding errors.
> > >
> > > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > Signed-off-by: Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>
> > > ---
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just came across this behavior:
> > > I'm using the clk-divider as cpuclock which can be scaled through cpufreq.
> > > During boot I create an opp table which in this case holds the frequencies [MHz]
> > > 666, 333 and 222. To make sure those are actually valid frequencies I call
> > > clk_round_rate().
> > > I added a debug line in clk-divider.c:clk_divider_bestdiv() before the return
> > > in line 163 giving me:
> > >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333330, div:4
> > > for adding the 333 MHz operating point.
> > >
> > > In the running system this gives me:
> > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_frequencies
> > > 222222 333333 666666
> > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> > >  666666
> > >
> > >  So far, so good. But now, let's scale the frequency:
> > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 333333 > scaling_setspeed
> > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> > >  266666
> > >
> > > And the corresponding debug line:
> > >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333000, div:5
> > >
> > > So, with DIV_ROUND_UP an actual divider of 4.00000396 becomes 5, resulting in a
> > > huge error.
> > >
> >
> > Soren,
> >
> > Thanks for the patch, and apologies for it getting lost for so long.  I
> > think that your issue is more about policy.  E.g. should we round the
> > divider up or round the divider down?  The correct answer will vary from
> > platform to platform and the clk.h api doesn't specify how
> > clk_round_rate should round, other than it must specify a rate that the
> > clock can actually run at.
> Sure, my problem seems to be caused by different subsystems using a different resolution for clock frequencies.
> 
> >
> > Unless everyone can agree that DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST gives them what they
> > want I'm more inclined to make this behavior a flag specific to struct
> > clk-divider.  E.g. CLK_DIVIDER_ROUND_CLOSEST.
> My understanding would have been, that clk_round_rate() gives me a
> frequency as close to the requested one as possible.

clk_round_rate clk_set_rate are implemented to give the closest possible
rate that *is not higher* than the desired clock. That was the
understanding by the time the clk framework was implemented.

> If the caller
> doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> 
> Another issue with the current implmentation:
> clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.

And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
exceed the desired rate.

That is, when you want to have a frequency of 100Hz and your divider is
2, then your parent input clock can be between 101Hz and 200Hz,
corresponding to a call to DIV_ROUND_UP.

Sascha


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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-20 18:50     ` Sascha Hauer
@ 2013-03-21  9:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
  2013-03-26 22:45         ` Sören Brinkmann
  2013-03-21 16:36       ` Sören Brinkmann
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2013-03-21  9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sören Brinkmann
  Cc: Sascha Hauer, Mike Turquette, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

Hello,

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:50:51PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > If the caller
> > doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> > And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> > clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> > Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> > 
> > Another issue with the current implmentation:
> > clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
> 
> And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
> maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
> exceed the desired rate.
The reason for that is that the (more?) usual constraint is like: This
mmc card can handle up to 100 MHz. Or this i2c device can handle up to
this and that frequency. Of course there are different constraints, e.g.
for a UART if the target baud speed is 38400 you better run at 38402
than at 19201.

I wonder if it depends on the clock if you want "best approximation <=
requested value" or "best approximation" or on the caller. In the former
case a flag for the clock would be the right thing (as suggested in this
thread). If however it's the caller of round_rate who knows better which
rounding is preferred than better extend the clk API.

Extending the API could just be a convenience function that doesn't
affect the implementations of the clk API. E.g.:

	long clk_round_rate_nearest(struct clk *clk, unsigned long rate)
	{
		long lower_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate);
		long upper_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate + (rate - lower_limit));

		if (rate - lower_limit < upper_limit - rate)
			return lower_limit;
		else
			return upper_limit;
	}

Best regards
Uwe

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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-20 18:50     ` Sascha Hauer
  2013-03-21  9:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
@ 2013-03-21 16:36       ` Sören Brinkmann
  2013-03-25 10:37         ` Sascha Hauer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sören Brinkmann @ 2013-03-21 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sascha Hauer; +Cc: Mike Turquette, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:50:51PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:16:09PM -0700, Mike Turquette wrote:
> > > Quoting Soren Brinkmann (2013-01-29 17:25:44)
> > > > Use the DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST macro to calculate divider values and minimize
> > > > rounding errors.
> > > >
> > > > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > > > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Signed-off-by: Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just came across this behavior:
> > > > I'm using the clk-divider as cpuclock which can be scaled through cpufreq.
> > > > During boot I create an opp table which in this case holds the frequencies [MHz]
> > > > 666, 333 and 222. To make sure those are actually valid frequencies I call
> > > > clk_round_rate().
> > > > I added a debug line in clk-divider.c:clk_divider_bestdiv() before the return
> > > > in line 163 giving me:
> > > >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333330, div:4
> > > > for adding the 333 MHz operating point.
> > > >
> > > > In the running system this gives me:
> > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_frequencies
> > > > 222222 333333 666666
> > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> > > >  666666
> > > >
> > > >  So far, so good. But now, let's scale the frequency:
> > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 333333 > scaling_setspeed
> > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> > > >  266666
> > > >
> > > > And the corresponding debug line:
> > > >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333000, div:5
> > > >
> > > > So, with DIV_ROUND_UP an actual divider of 4.00000396 becomes 5, resulting in a
> > > > huge error.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Soren,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the patch, and apologies for it getting lost for so long.  I
> > > think that your issue is more about policy.  E.g. should we round the
> > > divider up or round the divider down?  The correct answer will vary from
> > > platform to platform and the clk.h api doesn't specify how
> > > clk_round_rate should round, other than it must specify a rate that the
> > > clock can actually run at.
> > Sure, my problem seems to be caused by different subsystems using a different resolution for clock frequencies.
> >
> > >
> > > Unless everyone can agree that DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST gives them what they
> > > want I'm more inclined to make this behavior a flag specific to struct
> > > clk-divider.  E.g. CLK_DIVIDER_ROUND_CLOSEST.
> > My understanding would have been, that clk_round_rate() gives me a
> > frequency as close to the requested one as possible.
>
> clk_round_rate clk_set_rate are implemented to give the closest possible
> rate that *is not higher* than the desired clock. That was the
> understanding by the time the clk framework was implemented.
>
> > If the caller
> > doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> > And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> > clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> > Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> >
> > Another issue with the current implmentation:
> > clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
>
> And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
> maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
> exceed the desired rate.
That is not what I mean. I was pointing at, that passing the same
frequency to round_rate and set_rate can return different results, since
round_rate rounds up whereas set_rate rounds down. Though, it's probably
fine since you shouldn't call set_rate with a frequency which wasn't returned
from round_rate.

>
> That is, when you want to have a frequency of 100Hz and your divider is
> 2, then your parent input clock can be between 101Hz and 200Hz,
> corresponding to a call to DIV_ROUND_UP.
I was not (yet) looking at cases where CLK_SET_RATE_PARENT is set. Just
an isolated clk-divider.

        Sören


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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-21 16:36       ` Sören Brinkmann
@ 2013-03-25 10:37         ` Sascha Hauer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Hauer @ 2013-03-25 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sören Brinkmann; +Cc: Mike Turquette, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:36:14AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:50:51PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:16:09PM -0700, Mike Turquette wrote:
> > > > Quoting Soren Brinkmann (2013-01-29 17:25:44)
> > > > > Use the DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST macro to calculate divider values and minimize
> > > > > rounding errors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > > > > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just came across this behavior:
> > > > > I'm using the clk-divider as cpuclock which can be scaled through cpufreq.
> > > > > During boot I create an opp table which in this case holds the frequencies [MHz]
> > > > > 666, 333 and 222. To make sure those are actually valid frequencies I call
> > > > > clk_round_rate().
> > > > > I added a debug line in clk-divider.c:clk_divider_bestdiv() before the return
> > > > > in line 163 giving me:
> > > > >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333330, div:4
> > > > > for adding the 333 MHz operating point.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the running system this gives me:
> > > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_frequencies
> > > > > 222222 333333 666666
> > > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> > > > >  666666
> > > > >
> > > > >  So far, so good. But now, let's scale the frequency:
> > > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 333333 > scaling_setspeed
> > > > > zynq:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_cur_freq
> > > > >  266666
> > > > >
> > > > > And the corresponding debug line:
> > > > >         prate:1333333320, rate:333333000, div:5
> > > > >
> > > > > So, with DIV_ROUND_UP an actual divider of 4.00000396 becomes 5, resulting in a
> > > > > huge error.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Soren,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the patch, and apologies for it getting lost for so long.  I
> > > > think that your issue is more about policy.  E.g. should we round the
> > > > divider up or round the divider down?  The correct answer will vary from
> > > > platform to platform and the clk.h api doesn't specify how
> > > > clk_round_rate should round, other than it must specify a rate that the
> > > > clock can actually run at.
> > > Sure, my problem seems to be caused by different subsystems using a different resolution for clock frequencies.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Unless everyone can agree that DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST gives them what they
> > > > want I'm more inclined to make this behavior a flag specific to struct
> > > > clk-divider.  E.g. CLK_DIVIDER_ROUND_CLOSEST.
> > > My understanding would have been, that clk_round_rate() gives me a
> > > frequency as close to the requested one as possible.
> >
> > clk_round_rate clk_set_rate are implemented to give the closest possible
> > rate that *is not higher* than the desired clock. That was the
> > understanding by the time the clk framework was implemented.
> >
> > > If the caller
> > > doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> > > And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> > > clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> > > Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> > >
> > > Another issue with the current implmentation:
> > > clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
> >
> > And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
> > maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
> > exceed the desired rate.
> That is not what I mean. I was pointing at, that passing the same
> frequency to round_rate and set_rate can return different results, since
> round_rate rounds up whereas set_rate rounds down. Though, it's probably
> fine since you shouldn't call set_rate with a frequency which wasn't returned
> from round_rate.

There's no rule to call clk_set_rate only with the result of
clk_round_rate. clk_round_rate is no mandatory call at all. So, if
clk_set_rate adjusts to another rate than what clk_round_rate returned,
this is a bug.

Currently it's not clear to me why in clk_set_rate and clk_round_rate in
the divider different algorithms are used, I only notice that this is
the case since the introduction of the divider.

Sascha

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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-21  9:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
@ 2013-03-26 22:45         ` Sören Brinkmann
  2013-03-27  1:37           ` Mike Turquette
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sören Brinkmann @ 2013-03-26 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Uwe Kleine-König
  Cc: Sascha Hauer, Mike Turquette, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:15:31AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:50:51PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > > If the caller
> > > doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> > > And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> > > clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> > > Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> > > 
> > > Another issue with the current implmentation:
> > > clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
> > 
> > And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
> > maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
> > exceed the desired rate.
> The reason for that is that the (more?) usual constraint is like: This
> mmc card can handle up to 100 MHz. Or this i2c device can handle up to
> this and that frequency. Of course there are different constraints, e.g.
> for a UART if the target baud speed is 38400 you better run at 38402
> than at 19201.
> 
> I wonder if it depends on the clock if you want "best approximation <=
> requested value" or "best approximation" or on the caller. In the former
> case a flag for the clock would be the right thing (as suggested in this
> thread). If however it's the caller of round_rate who knows better which
> rounding is preferred than better extend the clk API.
> 
> Extending the API could just be a convenience function that doesn't
> affect the implementations of the clk API. E.g.:
> 
> 	long clk_round_rate_nearest(struct clk *clk, unsigned long rate)
> 	{
> 		long lower_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate);
> 		long upper_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate + (rate - lower_limit));
> 
> 		if (rate - lower_limit < upper_limit - rate)
> 			return lower_limit;
> 		else
> 			return upper_limit;
> 	}
> 
I guess both approaches may work. Anybody has a preference?

	Sören



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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-26 22:45         ` Sören Brinkmann
@ 2013-03-27  1:37           ` Mike Turquette
  2013-04-01 23:24             ` Sören Brinkmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Mike Turquette @ 2013-03-27  1:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sören Brinkmann, Uwe Kleine-König
  Cc: Sascha Hauer, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

Quoting Sören Brinkmann (2013-03-26 15:45:22)
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:15:31AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:50:51PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > > > If the caller
> > > > doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> > > > And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> > > > clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> > > > Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> > > > 
> > > > Another issue with the current implmentation:
> > > > clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
> > > 
> > > And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
> > > maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
> > > exceed the desired rate.
> > The reason for that is that the (more?) usual constraint is like: This
> > mmc card can handle up to 100 MHz. Or this i2c device can handle up to
> > this and that frequency. Of course there are different constraints, e.g.
> > for a UART if the target baud speed is 38400 you better run at 38402
> > than at 19201.
> > 
> > I wonder if it depends on the clock if you want "best approximation <=
> > requested value" or "best approximation" or on the caller. In the former
> > case a flag for the clock would be the right thing (as suggested in this
> > thread). If however it's the caller of round_rate who knows better which
> > rounding is preferred than better extend the clk API.
> > 
> > Extending the API could just be a convenience function that doesn't
> > affect the implementations of the clk API. E.g.:
> > 
> >       long clk_round_rate_nearest(struct clk *clk, unsigned long rate)
> >       {
> >               long lower_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate);
> >               long upper_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate + (rate - lower_limit));
> > 
> >               if (rate - lower_limit < upper_limit - rate)
> >                       return lower_limit;
> >               else
> >                       return upper_limit;
> >       }
> > 
> I guess both approaches may work. Anybody has a preference?
> 

A dedicated function like the one Uwe defined is better than adding
subtlety to the existing clk_round_rate via a flag in a clock driver.

Regards,
Mike

>         Sören

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* Re: [PATCH] clk: divider: Use DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST
  2013-03-27  1:37           ` Mike Turquette
@ 2013-04-01 23:24             ` Sören Brinkmann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sören Brinkmann @ 2013-04-01 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Turquette
  Cc: Uwe Kleine-König, Sascha Hauer, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 06:37:03PM -0700, Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Sören Brinkmann (2013-03-26 15:45:22)
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:15:31AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:50:51PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:32:51AM -0700, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
> > > > > If the caller
> > > > > doesn't like the returned frequency he can request a different one.
> > > > > And he's eventually happy with the return value he calls
> > > > > clk_set_rate() requesting the frequency clk_round_rate() returned.
> > > > > Always rounding down seems a bit odd to me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Another issue with the current implmentation:
> > > > > clk_divider_round_rate() calls clk_divider_bestdiv(), which uses the ROUND_UP macro, returning a rather low frequency.
> > > > 
> > > > And that is correct. clk_divider_bestdiv is used to calculate the
> > > > maximum parent frequency for which a given divider value does not
> > > > exceed the desired rate.
> > > The reason for that is that the (more?) usual constraint is like: This
> > > mmc card can handle up to 100 MHz. Or this i2c device can handle up to
> > > this and that frequency. Of course there are different constraints, e.g.
> > > for a UART if the target baud speed is 38400 you better run at 38402
> > > than at 19201.
> > > 
> > > I wonder if it depends on the clock if you want "best approximation <=
> > > requested value" or "best approximation" or on the caller. In the former
> > > case a flag for the clock would be the right thing (as suggested in this
> > > thread). If however it's the caller of round_rate who knows better which
> > > rounding is preferred than better extend the clk API.
> > > 
> > > Extending the API could just be a convenience function that doesn't
> > > affect the implementations of the clk API. E.g.:
> > > 
> > >       long clk_round_rate_nearest(struct clk *clk, unsigned long rate)
> > >       {
> > >               long lower_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate);
> > >               long upper_limit = clk_round_rate(clk, rate + (rate - lower_limit));
> > > 
> > >               if (rate - lower_limit < upper_limit - rate)
> > >                       return lower_limit;
> > >               else
> > >                       return upper_limit;
> > >       }
> > > 
> > I guess both approaches may work. Anybody has a preference?
> > 
> 
> A dedicated function like the one Uwe defined is better than adding
> subtlety to the existing clk_round_rate via a flag in a clock driver.
I looked at my problem again.

A new API function is probably fine for UART, ethernet drivers and
similar. Although, compared to a flag it would add some redundant
rounding, since clk_set_rate() implicitly also rounds the rate.
	clk_set_rate()
		clk_calc_new_rates()
			clk_round_rate()
But that is true for every driver which doesn't blindly call
clk_set_rate() and checks upfront through clk_round_rate() what
the actual frequency would look like.

So, do we agree to add this additional clk_round_rate_nearest()
function?
And if, should I just make Uwe's proposal another patch, additionally to
the other clk-divider change I'm working on?
Or Uwe, do you prefer to submit it yourself?


For my original problem, though, this is only part of a solution. It
appeared to be a rounding issue, but the actual root cause is the loss
of resolution when OPPs are converted to a frequency table for cpufreq.
I'm not sure how this can be resolved, yet.


	Sören



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