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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: fix is_pinnable_page against on cma page
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 16:58:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb6e76f1-2cbc-893d-c8ab-3ecd3fcae2a5@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ynr10y6pkH6WwbQo@google.com>

On 5/10/22 4:31 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
>>> +	int __mt = get_pageblock_migratetype(page);
>>> +	int mt = __READ_ONCE(__mt);
>>
>> Although I saw the email discussion about this in v2, that discussion
>> didn't go far enough. It started with "don't use volatile", and went
>> on to "try __READ_ONCE() instead", but it should have continued on
>> to "you don't need this at all".
> 
> That's really what I want to hear from experts so wanted to learn
> "Why". How could we prevent refetching of the mt if we don't use
> __READ_ONCE or volatile there?
> 
>>
>> Because you don't. There is nothing you are racing with, and adding
>> __READ_ONCE() in order to avoid a completely not-going-to-happen
>> compiler re-invocation of a significant code block is just very wrong.
>>
>> So let's just let it go entirely. :)
> 
> Yeah, once it's clear for everyone, I am happy to remove the
> unnecessary lines.
> 
>>
>>> +
>>> +	if (mt == MIGRATE_CMA || mt == MIGRATE_ISOLATE)
>>

With or without __READ_ONCE() or volatile or anything else,
this code will do what you want. Which is: loosely check
for either of the above.

What functional problem do you think you are preventing
with __READ_ONCE()? Because I don't see one.

thanks,

-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-10 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-10 21:17 [PATCH v4] mm: fix is_pinnable_page against on cma page Minchan Kim
2022-05-10 22:56 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-10 23:31   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-10 23:58     ` John Hubbard [this message]
2022-05-11  0:09       ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11  4:32         ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 21:46           ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 22:25             ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 22:37               ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 22:49                 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:08                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:13                     ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:15                       ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:28                         ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:33                           ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-11 23:57                         ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  0:12                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  0:12                           ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  0:22                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  0:26                               ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  0:34                                 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  0:49                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  1:02                                     ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  1:03                                     ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  1:08                                       ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  2:18                                         ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  3:44                                           ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  4:47                                             ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 14:00                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17 18:12                                               ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 19:28                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17 20:12                                                   ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 20:21                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-23 16:33                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24  2:55                                                       ` John Hubbard
2022-05-24  5:16                                                         ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24  6:22                                                           ` John Hubbard
2022-05-24 14:19                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 15:43                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24 15:48                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 16:37                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-24 16:59                                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  3:57                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  1:03                                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  0:35                                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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