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From: Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	mjrosato@linux.ibm.com, pmorel@linux.ibm.com,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	kwankhede@nvidia.com, jjherne@linux.ibm.com,
	fiuczy@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 03/15] s390/zcrypt: driver callback to indicate resource in use
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:54:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0e3cca2-8683-7034-3b41-cd04fcdfa2ce@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200416113356.28fcef8c.cohuck@redhat.com>

On 16.04.20 11:33, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 08:08:24 +0200
> Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> On 14.04.20 14:58, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Tue,  7 Apr 2020 15:20:03 -0400
>>> Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>> +	/* The non-default driver's module must be loaded */
>>>> +	if (!try_module_get(drv->owner))
>>>> +		return 0;  
>>> Is that really needed? I would have thought that the driver core's
>>> klist usage would make sure that the callback would not be invoked for
>>> drivers that are not registered anymore. Or am I missing a window?  
>> The try_module_get() and module_put() is a result of review feedback from
>> my side. The ap bus core is static in the kernel whereas the
>> vfio dd is a kernel module. So there may be a race condition between
>> calling the callback function and removal of the vfio dd module.
>> There is similar code in zcrypt_api which does the same for the zcrypt
>> device drivers before using some variables or functions from the modules.
>> Help me, it this is outdated code and there is no need to adjust the
>> module reference counter any more, then I would be happy to remove
>> this code :-)
> I think the driver core already should keep us safe. A built-in bus
> calling a driver in a module is a very common pattern, and I think
> ->owner was introduced exactly for that case.
>
> Unless I'm really missing something obvious?
Hm. I tested a similar code (see zcrypt_api.c where try_module_get() and module_put()
is called surrounding use of functions related to the implementing driver.
The driver module has a reference count of 0 when not used and can get removed
- because refcount is 0 - at any time when there is nothing related to the driver pending.

As soon as the driver is actually used the try_module_get(...driver.owner) increases
the reference counter and makes it impossible to remove the module. After use the
module_put() reduces the reference count.
When I now remove the try_module_get() and module_put() calls and run this modified
code I immediately face a crash when the module is removed during use.

I see code in the kernel which does an initial try_module_get() on the driver to increase
the reference count, for example when the driver registers. However, I see no clear
way to remove such a driver module any more.

I know I had a fight with a tester some years ago where he stated that it is a valid
testcase to remove a device driver module 'during use of the driver'. So I'd like
to have the try_module_get() and module_put() invokations in the ap bus code
until you convince me there are other maybe better ways to make sure the
driver and it's functions are available at the time of the call.

Maybe we can discuss this offline if you wish :-)


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-17 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-07 19:20 [PATCH v7 00/15] s390/vfio-ap: dynamic configuration support Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 01/15] s390/vfio-ap: store queue struct in hash table for quick access Tony Krowiak
2020-04-08 10:48   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-08 15:38     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-08 16:27       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-08 16:34         ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-24  3:57   ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-27 13:05     ` Harald Freudenberger
2020-04-27 15:17       ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-27 21:48         ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-28 10:07           ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-28 10:57             ` Harald Freudenberger
2020-04-28 22:30               ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-29  7:56                 ` Harald Freudenberger
2020-04-29 11:30               ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-28 10:46         ` Harald Freudenberger
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 02/15] s390/vfio-ap: manage link between queue struct and matrix mdev Tony Krowiak
2020-04-09 15:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-10 15:32     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-10 15:41     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 03/15] s390/zcrypt: driver callback to indicate resource in use Tony Krowiak
2020-04-14 12:08   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-15 17:10     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-16 10:05       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-16 14:35         ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-14 12:58   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-15  6:08     ` Harald Freudenberger
2020-04-16  9:33       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-17 13:54         ` Harald Freudenberger [this message]
2020-04-15 17:10     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-16  9:37       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-24  3:33         ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-24 17:07           ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-24 18:23             ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-27 21:36               ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-27  8:20   ` Pierre Morel
2020-04-27 22:24     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-28  8:09       ` Pierre Morel
2020-04-28 11:07       ` Harald Freudenberger
2020-04-28 14:37         ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 04/15] s390/vfio-ap: implement in-use callback for vfio_ap driver Tony Krowiak
2020-04-16 11:18   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-16 14:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-17 11:23       ` Pierre Morel
2020-04-24  3:13       ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-24 16:58         ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 05/15] s390/vfio-ap: introduce shadow CRYCB Tony Krowiak
2020-04-16 11:58   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-21 21:39     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 06/15] s390/vfio-ap: sysfs attribute to display the guest CRYCB Tony Krowiak
2020-04-08 10:33   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-08 16:38     ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-08 16:46       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-09 14:18         ` Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 07/15] s390/vfio-ap: filter CRYCB bits for unavailable queue devices Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 08/15] s390/vfio_ap: add qlink from ap_matrix_mdev struct to vfio_ap_queue struct Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 09/15] s390/vfio-ap: allow assignment of unavailable AP queues to mdev device Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 10/15] s390/vfio-ap: allow configuration of matrix mdev in use by a KVM guest Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 11/15] s390/vfio-ap: allow hot plug/unplug of AP resources using mdev device Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 12/15] s390/zcrypt: Notify driver on config changed and scan complete callbacks Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 13/15] s390/vfio-ap: handle host AP config change notification Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 14/15] s390/vfio-ap: handle AP bus scan completed notification Tony Krowiak
2020-04-07 19:20 ` [PATCH v7 15/15] s390/vfio-ap: handle probe/remove not due to host AP config changes Tony Krowiak
2020-05-07 15:03 ` [PATCH v7 03/15] s390/zcrypt: driver callback to indicate resource in use Tony Krowiak

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