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* [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
@ 2023-02-13 16:31 Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-13 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/userfaultfd: add VM_WARN_ONCE() Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-13 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-13 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: peterx, david, Andrew Morton
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, kernel, Paul Gofman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
error which we are trying to fix:

- Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
- Register userfaultfd
- Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
  PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
- Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
  out.

This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
area has been divided into multiple VMAs.

Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
---
Changes since v1:
- Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
---
 mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
--- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
+++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
@@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
 			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
 			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
 {
+	unsigned long end = start + len;
+	unsigned long _start, _end;
 	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
 	unsigned long page_mask;
 	int err;
+	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
 
 	/*
 	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
@@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
 	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
 		goto out_unlock;
 
-	err = -ENOENT;
-	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
+	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
+		err = -ENOENT;
 
-	if (!dst_vma)
-		goto out_unlock;
-	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
-		goto out_unlock;
-	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
-		goto out_unlock;
+		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
+			break;
+		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
+			break;
+		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
+			break;
 
-	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
-		err = -EINVAL;
-		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
-		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
-			goto out_unlock;
-	}
+		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
+			err = -EINVAL;
+			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
+			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
+				break;
+		}
 
-	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
+		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
+		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
 
-	err = 0;
+		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
+		err = 0;
+	}
 out_unlock:
 	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
 	return err;
-- 
2.39.1


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* [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/userfaultfd: add VM_WARN_ONCE()
  2023-02-13 16:31 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-13 16:31 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-13 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs Peter Xu
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-13 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: peterx, david, Andrew Morton
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, kernel, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Add VM_WARN_ONCE() to uffd_wp_range() to detect range (start, len) abuse.

Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
---
 mm/userfaultfd.c | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)

diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
index bccea08005a8..14ec88301511 100644
--- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
+++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
@@ -716,6 +716,8 @@ void uffd_wp_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma,
 	unsigned int mm_cp_flags;
 	struct mmu_gather tlb;
 
+	VM_WARN_ONCE(start < dst_vma->vm_start || start + len > dst_vma->vm_end,
+		     "The address range exceeds VMA boundary.\n");
 	if (enable_wp)
 		mm_cp_flags = MM_CP_UFFD_WP;
 	else
-- 
2.39.1


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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-13 16:31 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-13 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/userfaultfd: add VM_WARN_ONCE() Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-13 16:54 ` Peter Xu
  2023-02-13 17:50   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2023-02-13 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Muhammad Usama Anjum
  Cc: david, Andrew Morton, kernel, Paul Gofman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
> error which we are trying to fix:
> 
> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> - Register userfaultfd
> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>   out.
> 
> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
> 
> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> ---
> Changes since v1:
> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
> ---
>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>  {
> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>  	int err;

I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
not mapped.

> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>  		goto out_unlock;
>  
> -	err = -ENOENT;
> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
> +		err = -ENOENT;
>  
> -	if (!dst_vma)
> -		goto out_unlock;
> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> -		goto out_unlock;
> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> -		goto out_unlock;
> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
> +			break;
> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> +			break;
> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> +			break;
>  
> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> -		err = -EINVAL;
> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> -			goto out_unlock;
> -	}
> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> +			err = -EINVAL;
> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> +				break;
> +		}
>  
> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
>  
> -	err = 0;
> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
> +		err = 0;
> +	}
>  out_unlock:
>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>  	return err;

This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
app that relies on the existing behavior.

Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
interface rather than changing the old?

Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
!GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
patch for the initial round or wr-protect.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu


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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-13 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs Peter Xu
@ 2023-02-13 17:50   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-13 21:11     ` Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-13 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Xu
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, david, Andrew Morton, kernel, Paul Gofman,
	linux-mm, linux-kernel

On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
>> error which we are trying to fix:
>>
>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>> - Register userfaultfd
>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>   out.
>>
>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
>>
>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>> ---
>> Changes since v1:
>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
>> ---
>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>>  {
>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>>  	int err;
> 
> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
> not mapped.
It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.

> 
>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>>  
>>  	/*
>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>>  		goto out_unlock;
>>  
>> -	err = -ENOENT;
>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
>> +		err = -ENOENT;
>>  
>> -	if (!dst_vma)
>> -		goto out_unlock;
>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>> -		goto out_unlock;
>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>> -		goto out_unlock;
>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
>> +			break;
>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>> +			break;
>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>> +			break;
>>  
>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>> -		err = -EINVAL;
>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>> -			goto out_unlock;
>> -	}
>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>> +			err = -EINVAL;
>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>> +				break;
>> +		}
>>  
>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
>>  
>> -	err = 0;
>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
>> +		err = 0;
>> +	}
>>  out_unlock:
>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>>  	return err;
> 
> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
> app that relies on the existing behavior.
Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.

> 
> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
> interface rather than changing the old?
We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.

Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
(PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
!PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
!present pages.

> 
> Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
> !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
> patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.

> 
> Thanks,
> 

-- 
BR,
Muhammad Usama Anjum

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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-13 17:50   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-13 21:11     ` Peter Xu
  2023-02-14  8:49       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2023-02-13 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Muhammad Usama Anjum
  Cc: david, Andrew Morton, kernel, Paul Gofman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
> >> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
> >> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
> >> error which we are trying to fix:
> >>
> >> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >> - Register userfaultfd
> >> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >>   out.
> >>
> >> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
> >> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
> >>
> >> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> >> ---
> >> Changes since v1:
> >> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
> >> ---
> >>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
> >>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
> >> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
> >>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
> >>  {
> >> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
> >> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
> >>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
> >>  	unsigned long page_mask;
> >>  	int err;
> > 
> > I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
> > not mapped.
> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.

I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
!vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
have this patch.

> 
> > 
> >> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
> >>  
> >>  	/*
> >>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
> >> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
> >>  		goto out_unlock;
> >>  
> >> -	err = -ENOENT;
> >> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
> >> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
> >> +		err = -ENOENT;
> >>  
> >> -	if (!dst_vma)
> >> -		goto out_unlock;
> >> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >> -		goto out_unlock;
> >> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >> -		goto out_unlock;
> >> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
> >> +			break;
> >> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >> +			break;
> >> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >> +			break;
> >>  
> >> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >> -		err = -EINVAL;
> >> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >> -			goto out_unlock;
> >> -	}
> >> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >> +			err = -EINVAL;
> >> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >> +				break;
> >> +		}
> >>  
> >> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
> >> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
> >> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
> >>  
> >> -	err = 0;
> >> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
> >> +		err = 0;
> >> +	}
> >>  out_unlock:
> >>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
> >>  	return err;
> > 
> > This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
> > app that relies on the existing behavior.
> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.

So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.

While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
starts to go wrong.

Now I'm looking at the original problem..

 - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
 - Register userfaultfd
 - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
 - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
   out.

Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?

If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.

So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
invoked.

In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
should we skip?).

> 
> > 
> > Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
> > interface rather than changing the old?
> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.

Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
affected any existing uffd-wp user.

> 
> Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
> un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
> (PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
> note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
> !PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
> !present pages.

Currently we do maintain PM_UFFD_WP even for swap entries, so if it was
written then I think we'll know even if the page was swapped out:

	} else if (is_swap_pte(pte)) {
		if (pte_swp_uffd_wp(pte))
			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
		if (pte_marker_entry_uffd_wp(entry))
			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;

So it's working?

> 
> > 
> > Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
> > !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
> > patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
> Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.

IIUC in your latest public version is not optimized, but I can check the
new version when it comes.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-13 21:11     ` Peter Xu
@ 2023-02-14  8:49       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-14 21:50         ` Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-14  8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Xu, Paul Gofman
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, david, Andrew Morton, kernel, linux-mm,
	linux-kernel

On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
>>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
>>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
>>>> error which we are trying to fix:
>>>>
>>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>> - Register userfaultfd
>>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>>   out.
>>>>
>>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
>>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
>>>>
>>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes since v1:
>>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
>>>> ---
>>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>>>>  {
>>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
>>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>>>>  	int err;
>>>
>>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
>>> not mapped.
>> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
> 
> I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
> !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
> have this patch.
I'll update in next version.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>>>>  
>>>>  	/*
>>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
>>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>>>>  		goto out_unlock;
>>>>  
>>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
>>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
>>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
>>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
>>>>  
>>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
>>>> +			break;
>>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>> +			break;
>>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>> +			break;
>>>>  
>>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
>>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>> -			goto out_unlock;
>>>> -	}
>>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
>>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>> +				break;
>>>> +		}
>>>>  
>>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
>>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
>>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
>>>>  
>>>> -	err = 0;
>>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
>>>> +		err = 0;
>>>> +	}
>>>>  out_unlock:
>>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>>>>  	return err;
>>>
>>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
>>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
>> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
>> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
>> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
>> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
> 
> So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
> thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
> is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
> 
> While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
> happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
> starts to go wrong.
The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.

> 
> Now I'm looking at the original problem..
> 
>  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>  - Register userfaultfd
>  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>    out.
> 
> Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
Taking arguments from Paul here.

The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.

> 
> If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
> make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
> not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
the app etc.

> 
> So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
> it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
> invoked.
No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
.net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.

That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.

> 
> In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
> we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
> With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
> benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
> bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
> should we skip?).
We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
!uffd-wp vma comes.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
>>> interface rather than changing the old?
>> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
>> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
>> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
> 
> Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
> affected any existing uffd-wp user.
I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
used in wide range of app scenarios.

> 
>>
>> Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
>> un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
>> (PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
>> note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
>> !PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
>> !present pages.
> 
> Currently we do maintain PM_UFFD_WP even for swap entries, so if it was
> written then I think we'll know even if the page was swapped out:
> 
> 	} else if (is_swap_pte(pte)) {
> 		if (pte_swp_uffd_wp(pte))
> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
> 		if (pte_marker_entry_uffd_wp(entry))
> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
> 
> So it's working?
> 
>>
>>>
>>> Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
>>> !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
>>> patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
>> Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.
> 
> IIUC in your latest public version is not optimized, but I can check the
> new version when it comes.
I've some optimizations in next version keeping the code lines minimum. The
best optimization would be to add a page walk dedicated for this engaging
write-protect. I don't want to do that. Lets try to improve this patch in
how ever way possible. So that WP from UFFD ioctl can be used.

> 
> Thanks,
> 

-- 
BR,
Muhammad Usama Anjum

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-14  8:49       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-14 21:50         ` Peter Xu
  2023-02-15  7:08           ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2023-02-14 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Muhammad Usama Anjum
  Cc: Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:49:50PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
> >>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
> >>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
> >>>> error which we are trying to fix:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >>>> - Register userfaultfd
> >>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >>>>   out.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
> >>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Changes since v1:
> >>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
> >>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
> >>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
> >>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
> >>>>  {
> >>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
> >>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
> >>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
> >>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
> >>>>  	int err;
> >>>
> >>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
> >>> not mapped.
> >> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
> > 
> > I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
> > !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
> > have this patch.
> I'll update in next version.
> 
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
> >>>>  
> >>>>  	/*
> >>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
> >>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
> >>>>  		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>  
> >>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
> >>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
> >>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
> >>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
> >>>>  
> >>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
> >>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
> >>>> +			break;
> >>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >>>> +			break;
> >>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >>>> +			break;
> >>>>  
> >>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
> >>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >>>> -			goto out_unlock;
> >>>> -	}
> >>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
> >>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >>>> +				break;
> >>>> +		}
> >>>>  
> >>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
> >>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
> >>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
> >>>>  
> >>>> -	err = 0;
> >>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
> >>>> +		err = 0;
> >>>> +	}
> >>>>  out_unlock:
> >>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
> >>>>  	return err;
> >>>
> >>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
> >>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
> >> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
> >> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
> >> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
> >> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
> > 
> > So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
> > thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
> > is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
> > 
> > While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
> > happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
> > starts to go wrong.
> The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
> return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.
> 
> > 
> > Now I'm looking at the original problem..
> > 
> >  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >  - Register userfaultfd
> >  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >    out.
> > 
> > Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
> Taking arguments from Paul here.
> 
> The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
> change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
> complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
> is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
> their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
> application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
> shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
> PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.

Because uffd-wp has a limitation on e.g. it cannot nest so far.  I'm fine
with allowing mprotect() happening, but just to mention so far it cannot do
"any combinations" yet.

> 
> > 
> > If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
> > make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
> > not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
> It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
> range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
> protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
> cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
> only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
> the app etc.

Fair enough.

> 
> > 
> > So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
> > it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
> > invoked.
> No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
> own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
> .net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
> very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.
> 
> That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
> through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
> it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.

Do you mean you'll disable ENGAGE_WP && !GET in your other series?  Yes, if
this will service your goal, it'll be perfect to remove that interface.

> 
> > 
> > In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
> > we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
> > With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
> > benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
> > bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
> > should we skip?).
> We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
> !uffd-wp vma comes.

Let me try to double check with you here:

I assume you want to skip any vma that is not mapped at all, as the loop
already does so.  So it'll succeed if there're memory holes.

You also want to explicitly fail if some vma is not registered with uffd-wp
when walking the vma list, am I right?  IOW, the tracee _won't_ ever have a
chance to unregister uffd-wp itself, right?

> 
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
> >>> interface rather than changing the old?
> >> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
> >> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
> >> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
> > 
> > Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
> > affected any existing uffd-wp user.
> I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
> used in wide range of app scenarios.

Yes I think so.

Existing users should in most cases be applying the ioctl upon valid vmas
somehow.  I think the chance is low that someone relies on the errcode to
make other decisions, but I just cannot really tell because the user app
can do many weird things.

> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
> >> un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
> >> (PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
> >> note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
> >> !PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
> >> !present pages.
> > 
> > Currently we do maintain PM_UFFD_WP even for swap entries, so if it was
> > written then I think we'll know even if the page was swapped out:
> > 
> > 	} else if (is_swap_pte(pte)) {
> > 		if (pte_swp_uffd_wp(pte))
> > 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
> > 		if (pte_marker_entry_uffd_wp(entry))
> > 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
> > 
> > So it's working?
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
> >>> !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
> >>> patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
> >> Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.
> > 
> > IIUC in your latest public version is not optimized, but I can check the
> > new version when it comes.
> I've some optimizations in next version keeping the code lines minimum. The
> best optimization would be to add a page walk dedicated for this engaging
> write-protect. I don't want to do that. Lets try to improve this patch in
> how ever way possible. So that WP from UFFD ioctl can be used.

If you want to do this there, I think it can be simply/mostly a copy-paste
of this patch over there by looping over the vmas and apply the protections.

I think it's fine to do it with ioctl(UFFDIO_WP), but I want to be crystal
clear on what interface you're looking for before changing it, and let's
define it properly.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-14 21:50         ` Peter Xu
@ 2023-02-15  7:08           ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-15 21:45             ` Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-15  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Xu
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel,
	linux-mm, linux-kernel

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Hi Peter,

Thank you for your review!

On 2/15/23 2:50 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:49:50PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
>>>>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
>>>>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
>>>>>> error which we are trying to fix:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>>>> - Register userfaultfd
>>>>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>>>>   out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
>>>>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Changes since v1:
>>>>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>>>>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>>>>>>  {
>>>>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
>>>>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>>>>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>>>>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>>>>>>  	int err;
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
>>>>> not mapped.
>>>> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
>>>
>>> I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
>>> !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
>>> have this patch.
>> I'll update in next version.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  	/*
>>>>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
>>>>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>>>>>>  		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
>>>>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
>>>>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
>>>>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
>>>>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>>>> -			goto out_unlock;
>>>>>> -	}
>>>>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
>>>>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>>>> +				break;
>>>>>> +		}
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
>>>>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
>>>>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -	err = 0;
>>>>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
>>>>>> +		err = 0;
>>>>>> +	}
>>>>>>  out_unlock:
>>>>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>>>>>>  	return err;
>>>>>
>>>>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
>>>>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
>>>> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
>>>> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
>>>> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
>>>> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
>>>
>>> So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
>>> thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
>>> is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
>>>
>>> While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
>>> happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
>>> starts to go wrong.
>> The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
>> return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.
>>
>>>
>>> Now I'm looking at the original problem..
>>>
>>>  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>  - Register userfaultfd
>>>  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>    out.
>>>
>>> Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
>> Taking arguments from Paul here.
>>
>> The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
>> change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
>> complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
>> is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
>> their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
>> application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
>> shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
>> PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.
> 
> Because uffd-wp has a limitation on e.g. it cannot nest so far.  I'm fine
> with allowing mprotect() happening, but just to mention so far it cannot do
> "any combinations" yet.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
>>> make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
>>> not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
>> It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
>> range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
>> protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
>> cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
>> only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
>> the app etc.
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
>>> it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
>>> invoked.
>> No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
>> own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
>> .net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
>> very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.
>>
>> That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
>> through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
>> it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.
> 
> Do you mean you'll disable ENGAGE_WP && !GET in your other series?  Yes, if
> this will service your goal, it'll be perfect to remove that interface.
No, we cannot remove it.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
>>> we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
>>> With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
>>> benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
>>> bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
>>> should we skip?).
>> We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
>> !uffd-wp vma comes.
> 
> Let me try to double check with you here:
> 
> I assume you want to skip any vma that is not mapped at all, as the loop
> already does so.  So it'll succeed if there're memory holes.
> 
> You also want to explicitly fail if some vma is not registered with uffd-wp
> when walking the vma list, am I right?  IOW, the tracee _won't_ ever have a
> chance to unregister uffd-wp itself, right?
Yes, fail if any VMA doesn't have uffd-wp. This fail means the
write-protection or un-protection failed on a region of memory with error
-ENOENT. This is already happening in this current patch. The unregister
code would remain same. The register and unregister ioctls are already
going over all the VMAs in a range. I'm not rigid on anything. Let me
define the interface below.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
>>>>> interface rather than changing the old?
>>>> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
>>>> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
>>>> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
>>>
>>> Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
>>> affected any existing uffd-wp user.
>> I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
>> used in wide range of app scenarios.
> 
> Yes I think so.
> 
> Existing users should in most cases be applying the ioctl upon valid vmas
> somehow.  I think the chance is low that someone relies on the errcode to
> make other decisions, but I just cannot really tell because the user app
> can do many weird things.
Correct. The user can use any combination of operation
(mmap/mprotect/uffd). They must work in harmony.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
>>>> un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
>>>> (PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
>>>> note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
>>>> !PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
>>>> !present pages.
>>>
>>> Currently we do maintain PM_UFFD_WP even for swap entries, so if it was
>>> written then I think we'll know even if the page was swapped out:
>>>
>>> 	} else if (is_swap_pte(pte)) {
>>> 		if (pte_swp_uffd_wp(pte))
>>> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
>>> 		if (pte_marker_entry_uffd_wp(entry))
>>> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
>>>
>>> So it's working?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
>>>>> !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
>>>>> patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
>>>> Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.
>>>
>>> IIUC in your latest public version is not optimized, but I can check the
>>> new version when it comes.
>> I've some optimizations in next version keeping the code lines minimum. The
>> best optimization would be to add a page walk dedicated for this engaging
>> write-protect. I don't want to do that. Lets try to improve this patch in
>> how ever way possible. So that WP from UFFD ioctl can be used.
> 
> If you want to do this there, I think it can be simply/mostly a copy-paste
> of this patch over there by looping over the vmas and apply the protections.
I wouldn't want to do this. PAGEMAP IOCTL performing an operation
anonymously to UFFD_WP wouldn't look good when we can improve UFFD_WP itself.

> 
> I think it's fine to do it with ioctl(UFFDIO_WP), but I want to be crystal
> clear on what interface you're looking for before changing it, and let's
> define it properly.
Thank you. Let me crystal clear why we have sent this patch and what
difference we want.

Just like UFFDIO_REGISTER and UFFDIO_UNREGISTER don't care if the requested
range has multiple VMAs in the memory region, we want the same thing with
UFFDIO_WRITEPROTCET. It looks more uniform and obvious to us as user
doesn't care about VMAs. The user only cares about the memory he wants to
write-protect. So just update the inside code of UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT such
that it starts to act like UFFDIO_REGISTER/UFFDIO_UNREGISTER. It shouldn't
complain if there are multiple VMAs involved under the hood.

This patch is visiting all the VMAs in the memory range. The attached
patches are my wip v3. If you feel like there can be better way to achieve
this, please don't hesitate to send the v3 yourself.

Thank you so much!

-- 
BR,
Muhammad Usama Anjum

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From f69069dddda206b190706eef7b2dad3a67a6df10 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 16:13:23 +0500
Subject: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
To: peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com
Cc: usama.anjum@collabora.com, kernel@collabora.com

mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
error which we are trying to fix:

- Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
- Register userfaultfd
- Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
  PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
- Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
  out.

This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
area has been divided into multiple VMAs.

Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
---
Changes since v2:
- Correct the return error code

Changes since v1:
- Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
---
 mm/userfaultfd.c | 45 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
index 65ad172add27..a3b48a99b942 100644
--- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
+++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
@@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
 			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
 			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
 {
+	unsigned long end = start + len;
+	unsigned long _start, _end;
 	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
 	unsigned long page_mask;
-	int err;
+	int err = -ENOENT;
+	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
 
 	/*
 	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
@@ -758,30 +761,34 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
 	 * operation (e.g. mremap) running in parallel, bail out and
 	 * request the user to retry later
 	 */
-	err = -EAGAIN;
-	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
+	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing)) {
+		err = -EAGAIN;
 		goto out_unlock;
+	}
 
-	err = -ENOENT;
-	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
+	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
+		err = -ENOENT;
 
-	if (!dst_vma)
-		goto out_unlock;
-	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
-		goto out_unlock;
-	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
-		goto out_unlock;
+		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
+			break;
+		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
+			break;
+		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
+			break;
 
-	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
-		err = -EINVAL;
-		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
-		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
-			goto out_unlock;
-	}
+		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
+			err = -EINVAL;
+			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
+			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
+				break;
+		}
 
-	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
+		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
+		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
 
-	err = 0;
+		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
+		err = 0;
+	}
 out_unlock:
 	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
 	return err;
-- 
2.39.1


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From ac119b22aa00248ed67c7ac6e285a12391943b15 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:15:01 +0500
Subject: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm/userfaultfd: add VM_WARN_ONCE()
To: peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com
Cc: usama.anjum@collabora.com, kernel@collabora.com

Add VM_WARN_ONCE() to uffd_wp_range() to detect range (start, len) abuse.

Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
---
 mm/userfaultfd.c | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)

diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
index a3b48a99b942..0536e23ba5f4 100644
--- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
+++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
@@ -716,6 +716,8 @@ void uffd_wp_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma,
 	unsigned int mm_cp_flags;
 	struct mmu_gather tlb;
 
+	VM_WARN_ONCE(start < dst_vma->vm_start || start + len > dst_vma->vm_end,
+		     "The address range exceeds VMA boundary.\n");
 	if (enable_wp)
 		mm_cp_flags = MM_CP_UFFD_WP;
 	else
-- 
2.39.1


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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-15  7:08           ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-15 21:45             ` Peter Xu
  2023-02-16  6:25               ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2023-02-15 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Muhammad Usama Anjum
  Cc: Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:08:11PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thank you for your review!
> 
> On 2/15/23 2:50 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:49:50PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >> On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >>>> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >>>>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
> >>>>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
> >>>>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
> >>>>>> error which we are trying to fix:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >>>>>> - Register userfaultfd
> >>>>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >>>>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >>>>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >>>>>>   out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
> >>>>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> Changes since v1:
> >>>>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
> >>>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>>>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
> >>>>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
> >>>>>>  {
> >>>>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
> >>>>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
> >>>>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
> >>>>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
> >>>>>>  	int err;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
> >>>>> not mapped.
> >>>> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
> >>>
> >>> I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
> >>> !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
> >>> have this patch.
> >> I'll update in next version.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>  	/*
> >>>>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
> >>>>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>>>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
> >>>>>>  		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
> >>>>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
> >>>>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
> >>>>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
> >>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
> >>>>>> +			break;
> >>>>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >>>>>> +			break;
> >>>>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >>>>>> +			break;
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >>>>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
> >>>>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >>>>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >>>>>> -			goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>> -	}
> >>>>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >>>>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
> >>>>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >>>>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >>>>>> +				break;
> >>>>>> +		}
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
> >>>>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
> >>>>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> -	err = 0;
> >>>>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
> >>>>>> +		err = 0;
> >>>>>> +	}
> >>>>>>  out_unlock:
> >>>>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
> >>>>>>  	return err;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
> >>>>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
> >>>> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
> >>>> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
> >>>> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
> >>>> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
> >>>
> >>> So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
> >>> thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
> >>> is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
> >>>
> >>> While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
> >>> happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
> >>> starts to go wrong.
> >> The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
> >> return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Now I'm looking at the original problem..
> >>>
> >>>  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >>>  - Register userfaultfd
> >>>  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >>>    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >>>  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >>>    out.
> >>>
> >>> Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
> >> Taking arguments from Paul here.
> >>
> >> The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
> >> change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
> >> complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
> >> is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
> >> their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
> >> application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
> >> shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
> >> PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.
> > 
> > Because uffd-wp has a limitation on e.g. it cannot nest so far.  I'm fine
> > with allowing mprotect() happening, but just to mention so far it cannot do
> > "any combinations" yet.
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
> >>> make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
> >>> not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
> >> It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
> >> range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
> >> protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
> >> cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
> >> only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
> >> the app etc.
> > 
> > Fair enough.
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
> >>> it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
> >>> invoked.
> >> No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
> >> own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
> >> .net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
> >> very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.
> >>
> >> That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
> >> through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
> >> it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.
> > 
> > Do you mean you'll disable ENGAGE_WP && !GET in your other series?  Yes, if
> > this will service your goal, it'll be perfect to remove that interface.
> No, we cannot remove it.

If this patch can land, I assume ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) can start to service the
dirty tracking purpose, then why do you still need "ENGAGE_WP && !GET"?

Note, I'm not asking to drop ENGAGE_WP entirely, only when !GET.

> 
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
> >>> we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
> >>> With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
> >>> benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
> >>> bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
> >>> should we skip?).
> >> We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
> >> !uffd-wp vma comes.
> > 
> > Let me try to double check with you here:
> > 
> > I assume you want to skip any vma that is not mapped at all, as the loop
> > already does so.  So it'll succeed if there're memory holes.
> > 
> > You also want to explicitly fail if some vma is not registered with uffd-wp
> > when walking the vma list, am I right?  IOW, the tracee _won't_ ever have a
> > chance to unregister uffd-wp itself, right?
> Yes, fail if any VMA doesn't have uffd-wp. This fail means the
> write-protection or un-protection failed on a region of memory with error
> -ENOENT. This is already happening in this current patch. The unregister
> code would remain same. The register and unregister ioctls are already
> going over all the VMAs in a range. I'm not rigid on anything. Let me
> define the interface below.
> 
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
> >>>>> interface rather than changing the old?
> >>>> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
> >>>> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
> >>>> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
> >>> affected any existing uffd-wp user.
> >> I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
> >> used in wide range of app scenarios.
> > 
> > Yes I think so.
> > 
> > Existing users should in most cases be applying the ioctl upon valid vmas
> > somehow.  I think the chance is low that someone relies on the errcode to
> > make other decisions, but I just cannot really tell because the user app
> > can do many weird things.
> Correct. The user can use any combination of operation
> (mmap/mprotect/uffd). They must work in harmony.

No uffd - that's exactly what I'm saying: mprotect is fine here, but uffd
is probably not, not in a nested way.  When you try to UFFDIO_REGISTER upon
some range that already been registered (by the tracee), it'll fail for you
immediately:

		/*
		 * Check that this vma isn't already owned by a
		 * different userfaultfd. We can't allow more than one
		 * userfaultfd to own a single vma simultaneously or we
		 * wouldn't know which one to deliver the userfaults to.
		 */
		ret = -EBUSY;
		if (cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx &&
		    cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx != ctx)
			goto out_unlock;

So if this won't work for you, then AFAICT uffd-wp won't work for you (just
like soft-dirty but in another way, sorry), at least not until someone
starts to work on the nested.

> 
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
> >>>> un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
> >>>> (PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
> >>>> note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
> >>>> !PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
> >>>> !present pages.
> >>>
> >>> Currently we do maintain PM_UFFD_WP even for swap entries, so if it was
> >>> written then I think we'll know even if the page was swapped out:
> >>>
> >>> 	} else if (is_swap_pte(pte)) {
> >>> 		if (pte_swp_uffd_wp(pte))
> >>> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
> >>> 		if (pte_marker_entry_uffd_wp(entry))
> >>> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
> >>>
> >>> So it's working?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
> >>>>> !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
> >>>>> patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
> >>>> Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.
> >>>
> >>> IIUC in your latest public version is not optimized, but I can check the
> >>> new version when it comes.
> >> I've some optimizations in next version keeping the code lines minimum. The
> >> best optimization would be to add a page walk dedicated for this engaging
> >> write-protect. I don't want to do that. Lets try to improve this patch in
> >> how ever way possible. So that WP from UFFD ioctl can be used.
> > 
> > If you want to do this there, I think it can be simply/mostly a copy-paste
> > of this patch over there by looping over the vmas and apply the protections.
> I wouldn't want to do this. PAGEMAP IOCTL performing an operation
> anonymously to UFFD_WP wouldn't look good when we can improve UFFD_WP itself.
> 
> > 
> > I think it's fine to do it with ioctl(UFFDIO_WP), but I want to be crystal
> > clear on what interface you're looking for before changing it, and let's
> > define it properly.
> Thank you. Let me crystal clear why we have sent this patch and what
> difference we want.
> 
> Just like UFFDIO_REGISTER and UFFDIO_UNREGISTER don't care if the requested
> range has multiple VMAs in the memory region, we want the same thing with
> UFFDIO_WRITEPROTCET. It looks more uniform and obvious to us as user
> doesn't care about VMAs. The user only cares about the memory he wants to
> write-protect. So just update the inside code of UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT such
> that it starts to act like UFFDIO_REGISTER/UFFDIO_UNREGISTER. It shouldn't
> complain if there are multiple VMAs involved under the hood.
> 
> This patch is visiting all the VMAs in the memory range. The attached
> patches are my wip v3. If you feel like there can be better way to achieve
> this, please don't hesitate to send the v3 yourself.

As I said I think you have a point, and let's cross finger this is fine
(which I mostly agree with).

We can fail on !uffd-wp vmas, sounds reasonable to me.  But let's sync up
with above to make sure this works for you.

Since you've got a patch here, let me comment directly below.

> 
> Thank you so much!
> 
> -- 
> BR,
> Muhammad Usama Anjum

> From f69069dddda206b190706eef7b2dad3a67a6df10 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 16:13:23 +0500
> Subject: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
> To: peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com
> Cc: usama.anjum@collabora.com, kernel@collabora.com
> 
> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
> error which we are trying to fix:
> 
> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> - Register userfaultfd
> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>   out.
> 
> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
> 
> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> ---
> Changes since v2:
> - Correct the return error code
> 
> Changes since v1:
> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
> ---
>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 45 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> index 65ad172add27..a3b48a99b942 100644
> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>  {
> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>  	unsigned long page_mask;
> -	int err;
> +	int err = -ENOENT;
> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
> @@ -758,30 +761,34 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>  	 * operation (e.g. mremap) running in parallel, bail out and
>  	 * request the user to retry later
>  	 */
> -	err = -EAGAIN;
> -	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
> +	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing)) {
> +		err = -EAGAIN;
>  		goto out_unlock;
> +	}

Let's keep the original code and simply set -ENOENT afterwards.

>  
> -	err = -ENOENT;
> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
> +		err = -ENOENT;
>  
> -	if (!dst_vma)
> -		goto out_unlock;
> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> -		goto out_unlock;
> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> -		goto out_unlock;
> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
> +			break;

What is this check for?

> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> +			break;
> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> +			break;

I think this is not useful at all (even in the old code)?  It could have
sneaked in somehow when I took the code over from Shaohua/Andrea.  Maybe we
should clean it up since at it.

>  
> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> -		err = -EINVAL;
> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> -			goto out_unlock;
> -	}
> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> +			err = -EINVAL;
> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> +				break;
> +		}
>  
> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;

Maybe:

                _start = MAX(dst_vma->vm_start, start);
                _end = MIN(dst_vma->vm_end, end);

?

>  
> -	err = 0;
> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
> +		err = 0;
> +	}
>  out_unlock:
>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>  	return err;
> -- 
> 2.39.1
> 

> From ac119b22aa00248ed67c7ac6e285a12391943b15 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:15:01 +0500
> Subject: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm/userfaultfd: add VM_WARN_ONCE()
> To: peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com
> Cc: usama.anjum@collabora.com, kernel@collabora.com
> 
> Add VM_WARN_ONCE() to uffd_wp_range() to detect range (start, len) abuse.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> ---
>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 2 ++
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> index a3b48a99b942..0536e23ba5f4 100644
> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> @@ -716,6 +716,8 @@ void uffd_wp_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma,
>  	unsigned int mm_cp_flags;
>  	struct mmu_gather tlb;
>  
> +	VM_WARN_ONCE(start < dst_vma->vm_start || start + len > dst_vma->vm_end,
> +		     "The address range exceeds VMA boundary.\n");
>  	if (enable_wp)
>  		mm_cp_flags = MM_CP_UFFD_WP;
>  	else
> -- 
> 2.39.1
> 


-- 
Peter Xu


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-15 21:45             ` Peter Xu
@ 2023-02-16  6:25               ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-16 16:41                 ` Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-16  6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Xu
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel,
	linux-mm, linux-kernel

On 2/16/23 2:45 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:08:11PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thank you for your review!
>>
>> On 2/15/23 2:50 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:49:50PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>> On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>>>>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
>>>>>>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
>>>>>>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
>>>>>>>> error which we are trying to fix:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>>>>>> - Register userfaultfd
>>>>>>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>>>>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>>>>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>>>>>>   out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
>>>>>>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Changes since v1:
>>>>>>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>>>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>>>>>>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
>>>>>>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>>>>>>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>>>>>>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>>>>>>>>  	int err;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
>>>>>>> not mapped.
>>>>>> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
>>>>> !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
>>>>> have this patch.
>>>> I'll update in next version.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  	/*
>>>>>>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
>>>>>>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>>>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>>>>>>>>  		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
>>>>>>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
>>>>>>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
>>>>>>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
>>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
>>>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>>>>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
>>>>>>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>>>>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>>>>>> -			goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>> -	}
>>>>>>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>>>>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
>>>>>>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>>>>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>>>>>> +				break;
>>>>>>>> +		}
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
>>>>>>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
>>>>>>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> -	err = 0;
>>>>>>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
>>>>>>>> +		err = 0;
>>>>>>>> +	}
>>>>>>>>  out_unlock:
>>>>>>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>>>>>>>>  	return err;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
>>>>>>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
>>>>>> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
>>>>>> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
>>>>>> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
>>>>>> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
>>>>>
>>>>> So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
>>>>> thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
>>>>> is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
>>>>> happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
>>>>> starts to go wrong.
>>>> The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
>>>> return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm looking at the original problem..
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>>>  - Register userfaultfd
>>>>>  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>>>    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>>>  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>>>    out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
>>>> Taking arguments from Paul here.
>>>>
>>>> The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
>>>> change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
>>>> complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
>>>> is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
>>>> their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
>>>> application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
>>>> shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
>>>> PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.
>>>
>>> Because uffd-wp has a limitation on e.g. it cannot nest so far.  I'm fine
>>> with allowing mprotect() happening, but just to mention so far it cannot do
>>> "any combinations" yet.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
>>>>> make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
>>>>> not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
>>>> It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
>>>> range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
>>>> protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
>>>> cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
>>>> only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
>>>> the app etc.
>>>
>>> Fair enough.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
>>>>> it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
>>>>> invoked.
>>>> No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
>>>> own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
>>>> .net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
>>>> very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.
>>>>
>>>> That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
>>>> through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
>>>> it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.
>>>
>>> Do you mean you'll disable ENGAGE_WP && !GET in your other series?  Yes, if
>>> this will service your goal, it'll be perfect to remove that interface.
>> No, we cannot remove it.
> 
> If this patch can land, I assume ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) can start to service the
> dirty tracking purpose, then why do you still need "ENGAGE_WP && !GET"?
We don't need it. We need the following operations only:
1 GET
2 ENGAGE_WP + GET
When we have these two operations, we had added the following as well:
3 ENGAGE_WP + !GET or only ENGAGE_WP
This (3) can be removed from ioctl(PAGEMAP_IOCTL) if reviewers ask. I can
remove it in favour of this ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) patch for sure.

> 
> Note, I'm not asking to drop ENGAGE_WP entirely, only when !GET.
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
>>>>> we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
>>>>> With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
>>>>> benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
>>>>> bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
>>>>> should we skip?).
>>>> We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
>>>> !uffd-wp vma comes.
>>>
>>> Let me try to double check with you here:
>>>
>>> I assume you want to skip any vma that is not mapped at all, as the loop
>>> already does so.  So it'll succeed if there're memory holes.
>>>
>>> You also want to explicitly fail if some vma is not registered with uffd-wp
>>> when walking the vma list, am I right?  IOW, the tracee _won't_ ever have a
>>> chance to unregister uffd-wp itself, right?
>> Yes, fail if any VMA doesn't have uffd-wp. This fail means the
>> write-protection or un-protection failed on a region of memory with error
>> -ENOENT. This is already happening in this current patch. The unregister
>> code would remain same. The register and unregister ioctls are already
>> going over all the VMAs in a range. I'm not rigid on anything. Let me
>> define the interface below.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
>>>>>>> interface rather than changing the old?
>>>>>> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
>>>>>> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
>>>>>> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
>>>>> affected any existing uffd-wp user.
>>>> I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
>>>> used in wide range of app scenarios.
>>>
>>> Yes I think so.
>>>
>>> Existing users should in most cases be applying the ioctl upon valid vmas
>>> somehow.  I think the chance is low that someone relies on the errcode to
>>> make other decisions, but I just cannot really tell because the user app
>>> can do many weird things.
>> Correct. The user can use any combination of operation
>> (mmap/mprotect/uffd). They must work in harmony.
> 
> No uffd - that's exactly what I'm saying: mprotect is fine here, but uffd
> is probably not, not in a nested way.  When you try to UFFDIO_REGISTER upon
> some range that already been registered (by the tracee), it'll fail for you
> immediately:
> 
> 		/*
> 		 * Check that this vma isn't already owned by a
> 		 * different userfaultfd. We can't allow more than one
> 		 * userfaultfd to own a single vma simultaneously or we
> 		 * wouldn't know which one to deliver the userfaults to.
> 		 */
> 		ret = -EBUSY;
> 		if (cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx &&
> 		    cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx != ctx)
> 			goto out_unlock;
> 
> So if this won't work for you, then AFAICT uffd-wp won't work for you (just
> like soft-dirty but in another way, sorry), at least not until someone
> starts to work on the nested.
I was referring to a case where user registers the WP on multiple VMAs and
all the VMAs haven't been registered before. It would work. Right?

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also mwriteprotect_range() gives a pretty straight forward way to WP or
>>>>>> un-WP a range. Async WP can be used in coordination with pagemap file
>>>>>> (PM_UFFD_WP flag in PTE) as well. There may be use cases for it. On another
>>>>>> note, I don't see any use cases of WP async and PM_UFFD_WP flag as
>>>>>> !PM_UFFD_WP flag doesn't give direct information if the page is written for
>>>>>> !present pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently we do maintain PM_UFFD_WP even for swap entries, so if it was
>>>>> written then I think we'll know even if the page was swapped out:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	} else if (is_swap_pte(pte)) {
>>>>> 		if (pte_swp_uffd_wp(pte))
>>>>> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
>>>>> 		if (pte_marker_entry_uffd_wp(entry))
>>>>> 			flags |= PM_UFFD_WP;
>>>>>
>>>>> So it's working?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Side note: in your other pagemap series, you can optimize "WP_ENGAGE &&
>>>>>>> !GET" to not do generic pgtable walk at all, but use what it does in this
>>>>>>> patch for the initial round or wr-protect.
>>>>>> Yeah, it is implemented with some optimizations.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIUC in your latest public version is not optimized, but I can check the
>>>>> new version when it comes.
>>>> I've some optimizations in next version keeping the code lines minimum. The
>>>> best optimization would be to add a page walk dedicated for this engaging
>>>> write-protect. I don't want to do that. Lets try to improve this patch in
>>>> how ever way possible. So that WP from UFFD ioctl can be used.
>>>
>>> If you want to do this there, I think it can be simply/mostly a copy-paste
>>> of this patch over there by looping over the vmas and apply the protections.
>> I wouldn't want to do this. PAGEMAP IOCTL performing an operation
>> anonymously to UFFD_WP wouldn't look good when we can improve UFFD_WP itself.
>>
>>>
>>> I think it's fine to do it with ioctl(UFFDIO_WP), but I want to be crystal
>>> clear on what interface you're looking for before changing it, and let's
>>> define it properly.
>> Thank you. Let me crystal clear why we have sent this patch and what
>> difference we want.
>>
>> Just like UFFDIO_REGISTER and UFFDIO_UNREGISTER don't care if the requested
>> range has multiple VMAs in the memory region, we want the same thing with
>> UFFDIO_WRITEPROTCET. It looks more uniform and obvious to us as user
>> doesn't care about VMAs. The user only cares about the memory he wants to
>> write-protect. So just update the inside code of UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT such
>> that it starts to act like UFFDIO_REGISTER/UFFDIO_UNREGISTER. It shouldn't
>> complain if there are multiple VMAs involved under the hood.
>>
>> This patch is visiting all the VMAs in the memory range. The attached
>> patches are my wip v3. If you feel like there can be better way to achieve
>> this, please don't hesitate to send the v3 yourself.
> 
> As I said I think you have a point, and let's cross finger this is fine
> (which I mostly agree with).
Thank you so much! I'm sending the v3 in a while.

> 
> We can fail on !uffd-wp vmas, sounds reasonable to me.  But let's sync up
> with above to make sure this works for you.
> 
> Since you've got a patch here, let me comment directly below.
> 
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> -- 
>> BR,
>> Muhammad Usama Anjum
> 
>> From f69069dddda206b190706eef7b2dad3a67a6df10 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 16:13:23 +0500
>> Subject: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
>> To: peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com
>> Cc: usama.anjum@collabora.com, kernel@collabora.com
>>
>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
>> error which we are trying to fix:
>>
>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>> - Register userfaultfd
>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>   out.
>>
>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
>>
>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>> ---
>> Changes since v2:
>> - Correct the return error code
>>
>> Changes since v1:
>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
>> ---
>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 45 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
>>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> index 65ad172add27..a3b48a99b942 100644
>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>>  {
>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>> -	int err;
>> +	int err = -ENOENT;
>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>>  
>>  	/*
>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
>> @@ -758,30 +761,34 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>  	 * operation (e.g. mremap) running in parallel, bail out and
>>  	 * request the user to retry later
>>  	 */
>> -	err = -EAGAIN;
>> -	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>> +	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing)) {
>> +		err = -EAGAIN;
>>  		goto out_unlock;
>> +	}
> 
> Let's keep the original code and simply set -ENOENT afterwards.
Will update in v3.

> 
>>  
>> -	err = -ENOENT;
>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
>> +		err = -ENOENT;
>>  
>> -	if (!dst_vma)
>> -		goto out_unlock;
>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>> -		goto out_unlock;
>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>> -		goto out_unlock;
>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
>> +			break;
> 
> What is this check for?
I'd copied it from find_dst_vma(). Will update in v3.

> 
>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>> +			break;
>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>> +			break;
> 
> I think this is not useful at all (even in the old code)?  It could have
> sneaked in somehow when I took the code over from Shaohua/Andrea.  Maybe we
> should clean it up since at it.
Will update in v3.

> 
>>  
>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>> -		err = -EINVAL;
>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>> -			goto out_unlock;
>> -	}
>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>> +			err = -EINVAL;
>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>> +				break;
>> +		}
>>  
>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
> 
> Maybe:
> 
>                 _start = MAX(dst_vma->vm_start, start);
>                 _end = MIN(dst_vma->vm_end, end);
> 
> ?
Very clever. Thanks. Will update in v3.

> 
>>  
>> -	err = 0;
>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
>> +		err = 0;
>> +	}
>>  out_unlock:
>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>>  	return err;
>> -- 
>> 2.39.1
>>
> 
>> From ac119b22aa00248ed67c7ac6e285a12391943b15 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:15:01 +0500
>> Subject: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm/userfaultfd: add VM_WARN_ONCE()
>> To: peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com
>> Cc: usama.anjum@collabora.com, kernel@collabora.com
>>
>> Add VM_WARN_ONCE() to uffd_wp_range() to detect range (start, len) abuse.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>> ---
>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 2 ++
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> index a3b48a99b942..0536e23ba5f4 100644
>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>> @@ -716,6 +716,8 @@ void uffd_wp_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma,
>>  	unsigned int mm_cp_flags;
>>  	struct mmu_gather tlb;
>>  
>> +	VM_WARN_ONCE(start < dst_vma->vm_start || start + len > dst_vma->vm_end,
>> +		     "The address range exceeds VMA boundary.\n");
>>  	if (enable_wp)
>>  		mm_cp_flags = MM_CP_UFFD_WP;
>>  	else
>> -- 
>> 2.39.1
>>
> 
> 

-- 
BR,
Muhammad Usama Anjum

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-16  6:25               ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-16 16:41                 ` Peter Xu
  2023-02-17 10:59                   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2023-02-16 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Muhammad Usama Anjum
  Cc: Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 11:25:51AM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> On 2/16/23 2:45 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:08:11PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your review!
> >>
> >> On 2/15/23 2:50 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:49:50PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >>>> On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> >>>>>>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
> >>>>>>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
> >>>>>>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
> >>>>>>>> error which we are trying to fix:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >>>>>>>> - Register userfaultfd
> >>>>>>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >>>>>>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >>>>>>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >>>>>>>>   out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
> >>>>>>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> Changes since v1:
> >>>>>>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
> >>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>>>>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
> >>>>>>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>>>>>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
> >>>>>>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
> >>>>>>>>  {
> >>>>>>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
> >>>>>>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
> >>>>>>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
> >>>>>>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
> >>>>>>>>  	int err;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
> >>>>>>> not mapped.
> >>>>>> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
> >>>>> !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
> >>>>> have this patch.
> >>>> I'll update in next version.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>  	/*
> >>>>>>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
> >>>>>>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
> >>>>>>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
> >>>>>>>>  		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
> >>>>>>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
> >>>>>>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
> >>>>>>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
> >>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
> >>>>>>>> +			break;
> >>>>>>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
> >>>>>>>> +			break;
> >>>>>>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
> >>>>>>>> +			break;
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >>>>>>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
> >>>>>>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >>>>>>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >>>>>>>> -			goto out_unlock;
> >>>>>>>> -	}
> >>>>>>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
> >>>>>>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
> >>>>>>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
> >>>>>>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
> >>>>>>>> +				break;
> >>>>>>>> +		}
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
> >>>>>>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
> >>>>>>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> -	err = 0;
> >>>>>>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
> >>>>>>>> +		err = 0;
> >>>>>>>> +	}
> >>>>>>>>  out_unlock:
> >>>>>>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
> >>>>>>>>  	return err;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
> >>>>>>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
> >>>>>> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
> >>>>>> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
> >>>>>> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
> >>>>>> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
> >>>>> thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
> >>>>> is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
> >>>>> happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
> >>>>> starts to go wrong.
> >>>> The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
> >>>> return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now I'm looking at the original problem..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
> >>>>>  - Register userfaultfd
> >>>>>  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
> >>>>>    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
> >>>>>  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
> >>>>>    out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
> >>>> Taking arguments from Paul here.
> >>>>
> >>>> The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
> >>>> change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
> >>>> complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
> >>>> is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
> >>>> their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
> >>>> application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
> >>>> shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
> >>>> PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.
> >>>
> >>> Because uffd-wp has a limitation on e.g. it cannot nest so far.  I'm fine
> >>> with allowing mprotect() happening, but just to mention so far it cannot do
> >>> "any combinations" yet.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
> >>>>> make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
> >>>>> not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
> >>>> It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
> >>>> range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
> >>>> protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
> >>>> cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
> >>>> only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
> >>>> the app etc.
> >>>
> >>> Fair enough.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
> >>>>> it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
> >>>>> invoked.
> >>>> No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
> >>>> own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
> >>>> .net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
> >>>> very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
> >>>> through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
> >>>> it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.
> >>>
> >>> Do you mean you'll disable ENGAGE_WP && !GET in your other series?  Yes, if
> >>> this will service your goal, it'll be perfect to remove that interface.
> >> No, we cannot remove it.
> > 
> > If this patch can land, I assume ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) can start to service the
> > dirty tracking purpose, then why do you still need "ENGAGE_WP && !GET"?
> We don't need it. We need the following operations only:
> 1 GET
> 2 ENGAGE_WP + GET
> When we have these two operations, we had added the following as well:
> 3 ENGAGE_WP + !GET or only ENGAGE_WP
> This (3) can be removed from ioctl(PAGEMAP_IOCTL) if reviewers ask. I can
> remove it in favour of this ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) patch for sure.

Yes I prefer not having it if this works, because then they'll be
completely duplicated.

> 
> > 
> > Note, I'm not asking to drop ENGAGE_WP entirely, only when !GET.
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
> >>>>> we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
> >>>>> With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
> >>>>> benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
> >>>>> bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
> >>>>> should we skip?).
> >>>> We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
> >>>> !uffd-wp vma comes.
> >>>
> >>> Let me try to double check with you here:
> >>>
> >>> I assume you want to skip any vma that is not mapped at all, as the loop
> >>> already does so.  So it'll succeed if there're memory holes.
> >>>
> >>> You also want to explicitly fail if some vma is not registered with uffd-wp
> >>> when walking the vma list, am I right?  IOW, the tracee _won't_ ever have a
> >>> chance to unregister uffd-wp itself, right?
> >> Yes, fail if any VMA doesn't have uffd-wp. This fail means the
> >> write-protection or un-protection failed on a region of memory with error
> >> -ENOENT. This is already happening in this current patch. The unregister
> >> code would remain same. The register and unregister ioctls are already
> >> going over all the VMAs in a range. I'm not rigid on anything. Let me
> >> define the interface below.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
> >>>>>>> interface rather than changing the old?
> >>>>>> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
> >>>>>> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
> >>>>>> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
> >>>>> affected any existing uffd-wp user.
> >>>> I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
> >>>> used in wide range of app scenarios.
> >>>
> >>> Yes I think so.
> >>>
> >>> Existing users should in most cases be applying the ioctl upon valid vmas
> >>> somehow.  I think the chance is low that someone relies on the errcode to
> >>> make other decisions, but I just cannot really tell because the user app
> >>> can do many weird things.
> >> Correct. The user can use any combination of operation
> >> (mmap/mprotect/uffd). They must work in harmony.
> > 
> > No uffd - that's exactly what I'm saying: mprotect is fine here, but uffd
> > is probably not, not in a nested way.  When you try to UFFDIO_REGISTER upon
> > some range that already been registered (by the tracee), it'll fail for you
> > immediately:
> > 
> > 		/*
> > 		 * Check that this vma isn't already owned by a
> > 		 * different userfaultfd. We can't allow more than one
> > 		 * userfaultfd to own a single vma simultaneously or we
> > 		 * wouldn't know which one to deliver the userfaults to.
> > 		 */
> > 		ret = -EBUSY;
> > 		if (cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx &&
> > 		    cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx != ctx)
> > 			goto out_unlock;
> > 
> > So if this won't work for you, then AFAICT uffd-wp won't work for you (just
> > like soft-dirty but in another way, sorry), at least not until someone
> > starts to work on the nested.
> I was referring to a case where user registers the WP on multiple VMAs and
> all the VMAs haven't been registered before. It would work. Right?

But what if the user wants to do that during when you're tracing it using
userfaultfd?  Can it happen?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu


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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-16 16:41                 ` Peter Xu
@ 2023-02-17 10:59                   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
  2023-02-17 16:03                     ` Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Muhammad Usama Anjum @ 2023-02-17 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Xu
  Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum, Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel,
	linux-mm, linux-kernel

On 2/16/23 9:41 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 11:25:51AM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> On 2/16/23 2:45 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:08:11PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your review!
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/23 2:50 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:49:50PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/14/23 2:11 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:50:39PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/13/23 9:54 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:31:23PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> mwriteprotect_range() errors out if [start, end) doesn't fall in one
>>>>>>>>>> VMA. We are facing a use case where multiple VMAs are present in one
>>>>>>>>>> range of interest. For example, the following pseudocode reproduces the
>>>>>>>>>> error which we are trying to fix:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>>>>>>>> - Register userfaultfd
>>>>>>>>>> - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>>>>>>>>   PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>>>>>>>> - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>>>>>>>>   out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a simple use case where user may or may not know if the memory
>>>>>>>>>> area has been divided into multiple VMAs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reported-by: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Changes since v1:
>>>>>>>>>> - Correct the start and ending values passed to uffd_wp_range()
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>  mm/userfaultfd.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>>>>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>>>>>> index 65ad172add27..bccea08005a8 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -738,9 +738,12 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>>>>>>>  			unsigned long len, bool enable_wp,
>>>>>>>>>>  			atomic_t *mmap_changing)
>>>>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>>>> +	unsigned long end = start + len;
>>>>>>>>>> +	unsigned long _start, _end;
>>>>>>>>>>  	struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma;
>>>>>>>>>>  	unsigned long page_mask;
>>>>>>>>>>  	int err;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think this needs to be initialized or it can return anything when range
>>>>>>>>> not mapped.
>>>>>>>> It is being initialized to -EAGAIN already. It is not visible in this patch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see, though -EAGAIN doesn't look suitable at all.  The old retcode for
>>>>>>> !vma case is -ENOENT, so I think we'd better keep using it if we want to
>>>>>>> have this patch.
>>>>>> I'll update in next version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +	VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, dst_mm, start);
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  	/*
>>>>>>>>>>  	 * Sanitize the command parameters:
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -762,26 +765,29 @@ int mwriteprotect_range(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, unsigned long start,
>>>>>>>>>>  	if (mmap_changing && atomic_read(mmap_changing))
>>>>>>>>>>  		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> -	err = -ENOENT;
>>>>>>>>>> -	dst_vma = find_dst_vma(dst_mm, start, len);
>>>>>>>>>> +	for_each_vma_range(vmi, dst_vma, end) {
>>>>>>>>>> +		err = -ENOENT;
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> -	if (!dst_vma)
>>>>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>>>> -	if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>>>> -	if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>>>>>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>>>> +		if (!dst_vma->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx)
>>>>>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>>>>> +		if (!userfaultfd_wp(dst_vma))
>>>>>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>>>>> +		if (!vma_can_userfault(dst_vma, dst_vma->vm_flags))
>>>>>>>>>> +			break;
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> -	if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>>>>>>>> -		err = -EINVAL;
>>>>>>>>>> -		page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>>>>>>>> -		if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>>>>>>>> -			goto out_unlock;
>>>>>>>>>> -	}
>>>>>>>>>> +		if (is_vm_hugetlb_page(dst_vma)) {
>>>>>>>>>> +			err = -EINVAL;
>>>>>>>>>> +			page_mask = vma_kernel_pagesize(dst_vma) - 1;
>>>>>>>>>> +			if ((start & page_mask) || (len & page_mask))
>>>>>>>>>> +				break;
>>>>>>>>>> +		}
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> -	uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, start, len, enable_wp);
>>>>>>>>>> +		_start = (dst_vma->vm_start > start) ? dst_vma->vm_start : start;
>>>>>>>>>> +		_end = (dst_vma->vm_end < end) ? dst_vma->vm_end : end;
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> -	err = 0;
>>>>>>>>>> +		uffd_wp_range(dst_mm, dst_vma, _start, _end - _start, enable_wp);
>>>>>>>>>> +		err = 0;
>>>>>>>>>> +	}
>>>>>>>>>>  out_unlock:
>>>>>>>>>>  	mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
>>>>>>>>>>  	return err;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This whole patch also changes the abi, so I'm worried whether there can be
>>>>>>>>> app that relies on the existing behavior.
>>>>>>>> Even if a app is dependent on it, this change would just don't return error
>>>>>>>> if there are multiple VMAs under the hood and handle them correctly. Most
>>>>>>>> apps wouldn't care about VMAs anyways. I don't know if there would be any
>>>>>>>> drastic behavior change, other than the behavior becoming nicer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So this logic existed since the initial version of uffd-wp.  It has a good
>>>>>>> thing that it strictly checks everything and it makes sense since uffd-wp
>>>>>>> is per-vma attribute.  In short, the old code fails clearly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the new proposal is not: if -ENOENT we really have no idea what
>>>>>>> happened at all; some ranges can be wr-protected but we don't know where
>>>>>>> starts to go wrong.
>>>>>> The return error codes can be made to return in better way somewhat. The
>>>>>> return error codes shouldn't block a correct functionality enhancement patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I'm looking at the original problem..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - Allocate memory of size 16 pages with PROT_NONE with mmap
>>>>>>>  - Register userfaultfd
>>>>>>>  - Change protection of the first half (1 to 8 pages) of memory to
>>>>>>>    PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE. This breaks the memory area in two VMAs.
>>>>>>>  - Now UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT_MODE_WP on the whole memory of 16 pages errors
>>>>>>>    out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why the user app should wr-protect 16 pages at all?
>>>>>> Taking arguments from Paul here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The app is free to insert guard pages inside the range (with PROT_NONE) and
>>>>>> change the protection of memory freely. Not sure why it is needed to
>>>>>> complicate things by denying any flexibility. We should never restrict what
>>>>>> is possible and what not. All of these different access attributes and
>>>>>> their any combination of interaction _must_ work without question. The
>>>>>> application should be free to change protection on any sub-range and it
>>>>>> shouldn't break the PAGE_IS_WRITTEN + UFFD_WRITE_PROTECT promise which
>>>>>> PAGEMAP_IOCTL (patches are in progress) and UFFD makes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because uffd-wp has a limitation on e.g. it cannot nest so far.  I'm fine
>>>>> with allowing mprotect() happening, but just to mention so far it cannot do
>>>>> "any combinations" yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so, uffd_wp_range() will be ran upon a PROT_NONE range which doesn't
>>>>>>> make sense at all, no matter whether the user is aware of vma concept or
>>>>>>> not...  because it's destined that it's a vain effort.
>>>>>> It is not a vain effort. The user want to watch/find the dirty pages of a
>>>>>> range while working with it: reserve and watch at once while Write
>>>>>> protecting or un-protecting as needed. There may be several different use
>>>>>> cases. Inserting guard pages to catch out of range access, map something
>>>>>> only when it is needed; unmap or PROT_NONE pages when they are set free in
>>>>>> the app etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So IMHO it's the user app needs fixing here, not the interface?  I think
>>>>>>> it's the matter of whether the monitor is aware of mprotect() being
>>>>>>> invoked.
>>>>>> No. The common practice is to allocate a big memory chunk at once and have
>>>>>> own allocator over it (whether it is some specific allocator in a game or a
>>>>>> .net allocator with garbage collector). From the usage point of view it is
>>>>>> very limiting to demand constant memory attributes for the whole range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, if we do have the way to do exactly what we want with reset
>>>>>> through pagemap fd and it is just UFFD ioctl will be working differently,
>>>>>> it is not a blocker of course, just weird api design.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean you'll disable ENGAGE_WP && !GET in your other series?  Yes, if
>>>>> this will service your goal, it'll be perfect to remove that interface.
>>>> No, we cannot remove it.
>>>
>>> If this patch can land, I assume ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) can start to service the
>>> dirty tracking purpose, then why do you still need "ENGAGE_WP && !GET"?
>> We don't need it. We need the following operations only:
>> 1 GET
>> 2 ENGAGE_WP + GET
>> When we have these two operations, we had added the following as well:
>> 3 ENGAGE_WP + !GET or only ENGAGE_WP
>> This (3) can be removed from ioctl(PAGEMAP_IOCTL) if reviewers ask. I can
>> remove it in favour of this ioctl(UFFDIO_WP) patch for sure.
> 
> Yes I prefer not having it if this works, because then they'll be
> completely duplicated.
I'll remove it from next version.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Note, I'm not asking to drop ENGAGE_WP entirely, only when !GET.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In short, I hope we're working on things that helps at least someone, and
>>>>>>> we should avoid working on things that does not have clear benefit yet.
>>>>>>> With the WP_ENGAGE new interface being proposed, I just didn't see any
>>>>>>> benefit of changing the current interface, especially if the change can
>>>>>>> bring uncertainties itself (e.g., should we fail upon !uffd-wp vmas, or
>>>>>>> should we skip?).
>>>>>> We can work on solving uncertainties in case of error conditions. Fail if
>>>>>> !uffd-wp vma comes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me try to double check with you here:
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume you want to skip any vma that is not mapped at all, as the loop
>>>>> already does so.  So it'll succeed if there're memory holes.
>>>>>
>>>>> You also want to explicitly fail if some vma is not registered with uffd-wp
>>>>> when walking the vma list, am I right?  IOW, the tracee _won't_ ever have a
>>>>> chance to unregister uffd-wp itself, right?
>>>> Yes, fail if any VMA doesn't have uffd-wp. This fail means the
>>>> write-protection or un-protection failed on a region of memory with error
>>>> -ENOENT. This is already happening in this current patch. The unregister
>>>> code would remain same. The register and unregister ioctls are already
>>>> going over all the VMAs in a range. I'm not rigid on anything. Let me
>>>> define the interface below.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this for the new pagemap effort?  Can this just be done in the new
>>>>>>>>> interface rather than changing the old?
>>>>>>>> We found this bug while working on pagemap patches. It is already being
>>>>>>>> handled in the new interface. We just thought that this use case can happen
>>>>>>>> pretty easily and unknowingly. So the support should be added.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.  My understanding is that it would have been reported if it
>>>>>>> affected any existing uffd-wp user.
>>>>>> I would consider the UFFD WP a recent functionality and it may not being
>>>>>> used in wide range of app scenarios.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I think so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Existing users should in most cases be applying the ioctl upon valid vmas
>>>>> somehow.  I think the chance is low that someone relies on the errcode to
>>>>> make other decisions, but I just cannot really tell because the user app
>>>>> can do many weird things.
>>>> Correct. The user can use any combination of operation
>>>> (mmap/mprotect/uffd). They must work in harmony.
>>>
>>> No uffd - that's exactly what I'm saying: mprotect is fine here, but uffd
>>> is probably not, not in a nested way.  When you try to UFFDIO_REGISTER upon
>>> some range that already been registered (by the tracee), it'll fail for you
>>> immediately:
>>>
>>> 		/*
>>> 		 * Check that this vma isn't already owned by a
>>> 		 * different userfaultfd. We can't allow more than one
>>> 		 * userfaultfd to own a single vma simultaneously or we
>>> 		 * wouldn't know which one to deliver the userfaults to.
>>> 		 */
>>> 		ret = -EBUSY;
>>> 		if (cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx &&
>>> 		    cur->vm_userfaultfd_ctx.ctx != ctx)
>>> 			goto out_unlock;
>>>
>>> So if this won't work for you, then AFAICT uffd-wp won't work for you (just
>>> like soft-dirty but in another way, sorry), at least not until someone
>>> starts to work on the nested.
>> I was referring to a case where user registers the WP on multiple VMAs and
>> all the VMAs haven't been registered before. It would work. Right?
> 
> But what if the user wants to do that during when you're tracing it using
> userfaultfd?  Can it happen?
Sorry, I've not tested tracing.

> 
> Thanks,
> 

-- 
BR,
Muhammad Usama Anjum

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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Support WP on multiple VMAs
  2023-02-17 10:59                   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
@ 2023-02-17 16:03                     ` Peter Xu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2023-02-17 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Muhammad Usama Anjum
  Cc: Paul Gofman, david, Andrew Morton, kernel, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 03:59:25PM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> > But what if the user wants to do that during when you're tracing it using
> > userfaultfd?  Can it happen?
> Sorry, I've not tested tracing.

No worry.  It's not a request to test tracing; it's more or less to make
sure it works for you if it cannot trace a program that uses uffd.  If it's
not a problem to you, then it's not a problem to me either. And it's not
anything special to async but in general to uffd.  Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu


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