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From: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: "Oliver Neukum" <oneukum@suse.de>
Cc: "Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Maneesh Soni" <maneesh@in.ibm.com>,
	gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: refcounting drivers' data structures used in sysfs buffers
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:02:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d120d5000703090902v6ae88c75ibe18ff0de3e5276d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703091745.00169.oneukum@suse.de>

On 3/9/07, Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de> wrote:
> Am Freitag, 9. März 2007 17:32 schrieb Alan Stern:
> > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> >
> > > Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2007 17:02 schrieb Alan Stern:
> > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > after a lightning bolt from high above I've been looking into refcounting
> > > > > the data structures drivers use to provide the data used to refill sysfs
> > > > > buffers. I've come to the following conclusion.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. struct sysfs_buffer must have a struct kref * and probably a destructor
> > > > > pointer
> > > > > 2. drivers must be able to pass these pointers through an extended
> > > > > device_create_file()
> > > > > 3. Drivers must use refcounting if they want to use attributes
> > > > > 4. read/write/poll must do refcounting
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure where to store the pointers. struct sysfs_dirent() looks
> > > > > like the obvious choice. Comments?
> > > >
> > > > Can you explain the reasoning that led to these conclusions?  And what
> > > > exactly was your lightning bolt?
> > >
> > > The old race between disconnect and IO to attribute via sysfs again.
> > > If I cannot disassociate the drivers from the buffers in the buffers, drivers
> > > must not deallocate the data necessary to answer sysfs callbacks while
> > > a buffer exists.
> >
> > Why wouldn't you be able to dissociate a driver from a buffer?  That was
> > the whole point of adding .orphan to sysfs_buffer and creating
> > sysfs_buffer_collection -- it was supposed to solve exactly this race.
>
> It did solve the race but deadlocked when unbinding devices through sysfs.
> Linux therefore asked for the patch to be reverted and wants the isue solved
> with refcounting.
>

I think we already have all refcounting that is needed. What is
missing is subsystem-provided ->release() hooks for drivers to release
driver-specific resources when a device finally goes away.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-09 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-08 13:05 refcounting drivers' data structures used in sysfs buffers Oliver Neukum
2007-03-08 16:02 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-09  0:45   ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-09 16:32     ` Alan Stern
2007-03-09 16:44       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-09 17:02         ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2007-03-09 17:18           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-09 17:34             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-09 19:32               ` Alan Stern
2007-03-09 20:05                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-09 20:27                   ` Alan Stern
2007-03-09 20:39                     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-09 20:08               ` Alan Stern
2007-03-09 20:48                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-10 19:19                   ` Alan Stern
2007-03-12  8:54                     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 14:57                       ` Alan Stern
2007-03-12 15:23                         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:42                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-12 15:59                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 16:21                               ` Alan Stern
2007-03-12 18:25                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 19:31                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-03-12 19:49                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 20:03                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-03-12 20:15                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 20:31                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-12 20:45                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-03-12 21:31                                           ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-13 15:00                                             ` 2.6.21-rc suspend regression: sysfs deadlock Alan Stern
2007-03-13 18:42                                               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-13 21:20                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:12                                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-03-14 18:43                                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-14 19:23                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-03-15 10:27                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-15 12:31                                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 13:02                                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-15 13:22                                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-15 13:59                                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 14:27                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-03-15 15:32                                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-15 16:29                                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 16:51                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 19:50                                                                 ` [PATCH] sysfs and driver core: add callback helper, used by SCSI and S390 Alan Stern
2007-03-15 19:51                                                                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: reinstate exclusion between method calls and attribute unregistration Alan Stern
2007-03-13 19:00                                               ` 2.6.21-rc suspend regression: sysfs deadlock Hugh Dickins
2007-03-13 20:09                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-13 20:55                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-13 21:08                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-13 21:20                                                     ` Alan Stern

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