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From: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: Use immediate operand when possible
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:42:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <daacce9f-1900-1034-980b-be5a58d6be09@csgroup.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210414122409.GV26583@gate.crashing.org>



Le 14/04/2021 à 14:24, Segher Boessenkool a écrit :
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:01:21PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>> Would be nice if we could let the compiler deal with it all...
>>
>> static inline unsigned long lr(unsigned long *mem)
>> {
>>          unsigned long val;
>>
>>          /*
>>           * This doesn't clobber memory but want to avoid memory operations
>>           * moving ahead of it
>>           */
>>          asm volatile("ldarx     %0, %y1" : "=r"(val) : "Z"(*mem) : "memory");
>>
>>          return val;
>> }
> 
> (etc.)
> 
> That can not work reliably: the compiler can put random instructions
> between the larx and stcx. this way, and you then do not have guaranteed
> forward progress anymore.  It can put the two in different routines
> (after inlining and other interprocedural optimisations), duplicate
> them, make a different number of copies of them, etc.
> 
> Nothing of that is okay if you want to guarantee forward progress on all
> implementations, and also not if you want to have good performance
> everywhere (or anywhere even).  Unfortunately you have to write all
> larx/stcx. loops as one block of assembler, so that you know exactly
> what instructions will end up in your binary.
> 
> If you don't, it will fail mysteriously after random recompilations, or
> have performance degradations, etc.  You don't want to go there :-)
> 

Could the kernel use GCC builtin atomic functions instead ?

https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/_005f_005fatomic-Builtins.html



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-08 15:33 [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: Use immediate operand when possible Christophe Leroy
2021-04-08 15:33 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] powerpc/atomics: " Christophe Leroy
2021-04-12 22:08   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-13 16:36     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-04-12 21:54 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: " Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-13 16:33   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-04-13 21:58     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-14  2:01       ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-04-14 12:24         ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-14 12:42           ` Christophe Leroy [this message]
2021-04-14 15:19             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-14 15:32               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 17:20                 ` Segher Boessenkool

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