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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Segher Boessenkool' <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: Use immediate operand when possible
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:32:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <efcabc9410cf4d03b203749a02e5a935@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210414151921.GW26583@gate.crashing.org>

From: Segher Boessenkool
> Sent: 14 April 2021 16:19
...
> > Could the kernel use GCC builtin atomic functions instead ?
> >
> > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/_005f_005fatomic-Builtins.html
> 
> Certainly that should work fine for the simpler cases that the atomic
> operations are meant to provide.  But esp. for not-so-simple cases the
> kernel may require some behaviour provided by the existing assembler
> implementation, and not by the atomic builtins.
> 
> I'm not saying this cannot work, just that some serious testing will be
> needed.  If it works it should be the best of all worlds, so then it is
> a really good idea yes :-)

I suspect they just add an extra layer of abstraction that makes it
even more difficult to verify and could easily get broken by a compiler
update (etc).

The other issue is that the code needs to be correct with compiled
with (for example) -O0.
That could very easily break anything except the asm implementation
if additional memory accesses and/or increased code size cause grief.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-08 15:33 [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: Use immediate operand when possible Christophe Leroy
2021-04-08 15:33 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] powerpc/atomics: " Christophe Leroy
2021-04-12 22:08   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-13 16:36     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-04-12 21:54 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] powerpc/bitops: " Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-13 16:33   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-04-13 21:58     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-14  2:01       ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-04-14 12:24         ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-14 12:42           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-04-14 15:19             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-04-14 15:32               ` David Laight [this message]
2021-04-14 17:20                 ` Segher Boessenkool

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