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From: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
To: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/30] panic: Refactor the panic path
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 08:23:33 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ded31ec0-076b-2c5b-0fe6-0c274954821f@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220519234502.GA194232@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>

On 19/05/2022 20:45, Baoquan He wrote:
> [...]
>> I really appreciate the summary skill you have, to convert complex
>> problems in very clear and concise ideas. Thanks for that, very useful!
>> I agree with what was summarized above.
> 
> I want to say the similar words to Petr's reviewing comment when I went
> through the patches and traced each reviewing sub-thread to try to
> catch up. Petr has reivewed this series so carefully and given many
> comments I want to ack immediately.
> 
> I agree with most of the suggestions from Petr to this patch, except of
> one tiny concern, please see below inline comment.

Hi Baoquan, thanks! I'm glad you're also reviewing that =)


> [...]
> 
> I like the proposed skeleton of panic() and code style suggested by
> Petr very much. About panic_prefer_crash_dump which might need be added,
> I hope it has a default value true. This makes crash_dump execute at
> first by default just as before, unless people specify
> panic_prefer_crash_dump=0|n|off to disable it. Otherwise we need add
> panic_prefer_crash_dump=1 in kernel and in our distros to enable kdump,
> this is inconsistent with the old behaviour.

I'd like to understand better why the crash_kexec() must always be the
first thing in your use case. If we keep that behavior, we'll see all
sorts of workarounds - see the last patches of this series, Hyper-V and
PowerPC folks hardcoded "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" in order to force
execution of their relevant notifiers (like the vmbus disconnect,
specially in arm64 that has no custom machine_crash_shutdown, or the
fadump case in ppc). This led to more risk in kdump.

The thing is: with the notifiers' split, we tried to keep only the most
relevant/necessary stuff in this first list, things that ultimately
should improve kdump reliability or if not, at least not break it. My
feeling is that, with this series, we should change the idea/concept
that kdump must run first nevertheless, not matter what. We're here
trying to accommodate the antagonistic goals of hypervisors that need
some clean-up (even for kdump to work) VS. kdump users, that wish a
"pristine" system reboot ASAP after the crash.

Cheers,


Guilherme

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-27 22:48 [PATCH 00/30] The panic notifiers refactor Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:48 ` [PATCH 01/30] x86/crash,reboot: Avoid re-disabling VMX in all CPUs on crash/restart Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 12:32   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 15:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-10 20:11     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:48 ` [PATCH 02/30] ARM: kexec: Disable IRQs/FIQs also on crash CPUs shutdown path Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 16:26   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-04-29 18:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-04-29 21:38     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 21:45       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-29 21:56         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 22:00         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-04-27 22:48 ` [PATCH 03/30] notifier: Add panic notifiers info and purge trailing whitespaces Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:48 ` [PATCH 04/30] firmware: google: Convert regular spinlock into trylock on panic path Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-03 18:03   ` Evan Green
2022-05-03 19:12     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-03 21:56       ` Evan Green
2022-05-04 12:45         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 11:38       ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 13:04         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 17:20         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-10 19:40           ` John Ogness
2022-05-11 11:13             ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-27 22:48 ` [PATCH 05/30] misc/pvpanic: " Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 12:14   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 13:00     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-17 10:58       ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 13:03         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 06/30] soc: bcm: brcmstb: Document panic notifier action and remove useless header Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-02 15:38   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-02 15:47     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 07/30] mips: ip22: Reword PANICED to PANICKED " Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-04 20:32   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2022-05-04 21:26     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 08/30] powerpc/setup: Refactor/untangle panic notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-05 18:55   ` Hari Bathini
2022-05-05 19:28     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 12:50     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 13:53       ` Michael Ellerman
2022-05-10 14:10         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 09/30] coresight: cpu-debug: Replace mutex with mutex_trylock on panic notifier Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-28  8:11   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-04-29 14:01     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 13:09     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 16:14       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-05-09 16:26         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 10/30] alpha: Clean-up the panic notifier code Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 14:13   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 14:16     ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-11 20:10       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 11/30] um: Improve panic notifiers consistency and ordering Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-28  8:30   ` Johannes Berg
2022-04-29 15:46     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 14:28   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-11 20:22     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-13 14:44       ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-15 22:12         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 12/30] parisc: Replace regular spinlock with spin_trylock on panic path Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-28 16:55   ` Helge Deller
2022-04-29 14:34     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-23 20:40     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-23 21:31       ` Helge Deller
2022-05-23 21:55         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 13/30] s390/consoles: Improve panic notifiers reliability Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 18:46   ` Heiko Carstens
2022-04-29 19:31     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 14/30] panic: Properly identify the panic event to the notifiers' callbacks Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 15:16   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 16:16     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-17 13:11       ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 15:19         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 15/30] bus: brcmstb_gisb: Clean-up panic/die notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-02 15:38   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-02 15:50     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 15:28   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 15:32     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 16/30] drivers/hv/vmbus, video/hyperv_fb: Untangle and refactor Hyper-V panic notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 17:16   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-04-29 22:35     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-03 18:13       ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-05-03 18:57         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 17/30] tracing: Improve panic/die notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29  9:22   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2022-04-29 13:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-29 13:46       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 13:56         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-29 14:44           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-11 11:45   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 15:33     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 18/30] notifier: Show function names on notifier routines if DEBUG_NOTIFIERS is set Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-28  1:01   ` Xiaoming Ni
2022-04-29 19:38     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 17:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-16 16:14       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 16:27   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 19/30] panic: Add the panic hypervisor notifier list Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 17:30   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-04-29 18:04     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-03 17:44       ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-05-03 17:56         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 14:01   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 15:06     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 16:02       ` Evan Green
2022-05-17 13:28         ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 16:37           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-18  7:33             ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-18 13:24               ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-17 13:57       ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 16:42         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-18  7:38           ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-18 13:09             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-18 22:17           ` Scott Branden
2022-05-19 12:19             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-19 19:20               ` Scott Branden
2022-05-23 14:56                 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-24  8:04                   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-18  7:58         ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-18 13:16           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-19  7:03             ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-19 12:07               ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 20/30] panic: Add the panic informational " Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 23:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-28  8:14   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-04-29 14:50     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 14:11   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 14:28     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 21/30] panic: Introduce the panic pre-reboot " Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-28 14:13   ` Alex Elder
2022-04-28 16:26   ` Corey Minyard
2022-04-29 15:18     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 16:04   ` Max Filippov
2022-04-29 19:34     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 14:33   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 16:05     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 16:18       ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-16 16:33         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-17 14:11           ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-17 16:45             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-17 17:02               ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-17 18:12                 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-17 19:07                   ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 22/30] panic: Introduce the panic post-reboot " Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 14:16   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-11 16:45     ` Heiko Carstens
2022-05-11 19:58       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 14:45   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 16:08     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 23/30] printk: kmsg_dump: Introduce helper to inform number of dumpers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-10 17:40   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-11 20:03     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 14:50       ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 16:09         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 24/30] panic: Refactor the panic path Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-28  0:28   ` Randy Dunlap
2022-04-29 16:04     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 14:25       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-29 17:53   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-04-29 20:38     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-03 17:31       ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-05-03 18:06         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-09 15:16   ` d.hatayama
2022-05-09 16:39     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-12 14:03   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-15 22:47     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 10:21       ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 16:32         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-19 23:45       ` Baoquan He
2022-05-20 11:23         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli [this message]
2022-05-24  8:01           ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-24 10:18             ` Baoquan He
2022-05-24  8:32           ` Baoquan He
2022-05-24 14:44   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-05-26 16:25     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-06-14 14:36       ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-15  9:36         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 25/30] panic, printk: Add console flush parameter and convert panic_print to a notifier Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-05-16 14:56   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-16 16:11     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 26/30] Drivers: hv: Do not force all panic notifiers to execute before kdump Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 27/30] powerpc: " Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 28/30] panic: Unexport crash_kexec_post_notifiers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 29/30] powerpc: ps3, pseries: Avoid duplicate call to kmsg_dump() on panic Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-04-27 22:49 ` [PATCH 30/30] um: Avoid duplicate call to kmsg_dump() Guilherme G. Piccoli

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