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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	david@lang.hm, Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>,
	rae l <crquan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: -Os versus -O2
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:08:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6d26e7ee86cc527095de2716f285aff@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070625050424.GZ943@1wt.eu>

> In my experience, -Os produced faster code on gcc-2.95 than -O2 or -O3.

On what CPU?  The effect of different optimisations varies
hugely between different CPUs (and architectures).

> It was not only because of cache considerations, but because gcc used
> different tricks to avoid poor optimizations, and at the end, the CPU
> ended executing the alternative code faster.

-Os is "as fast as you can without bloating the code size",
so that is the expected result for CPUs that don't need
special hand-holding around certain performance pitfalls.

> With gcc-3.3, -Os show roughly the same performance as -O2 for me on
> various programs. However, with gcc-3.4, I noticed a slow down with
> -Os. And with gcc-4, using -Os optimizes only for size, even if the
> output code is slow as hell. I've had programs whose speed dropped
> by 70% using -Os on gcc-4.

Well you better report those!  <http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla>

> But in some situtations, it's desirable to have the smallest possible
> kernel whatever its performance. This goes for installation CDs for
> instance.

There are much better ways to achieve that.


Segher


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-25  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-23  5:15 [PATCH] trivial: the memset operation on a automatic array variable should be optimized out by data initialization Denis Cheng
2007-06-23  7:59 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-23 13:13   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-23 13:41     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-23 13:57       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-23 15:21         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-24 12:58   ` rae l
2007-06-24 22:25     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-24 22:15       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-24 23:23         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-06-25  0:09           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  0:12             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-06-25  0:23               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  0:41                 ` -Os versus -O2 Adrian Bunk
2007-06-25  0:58                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  1:08                     ` david
2007-06-25  1:17                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  1:33                         ` david
2007-06-25  1:41                           ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  5:04                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-25  7:08                             ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-25  7:15                               ` david
2007-06-25  7:41                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  8:19                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-25  8:41                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  7:03                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  7:13                         ` david
2007-06-25  7:35                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  1:33                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-25  1:23                   ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  1:31                     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  1:34                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-25  1:46                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-25  2:19                       ` david
2007-06-24 23:33         ` memset() with zeroes (Re: [PATCH] trivial: the memset operation on a automatic array variable should be optimized out by data initialization) Oleg Verych

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