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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.de>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Andra Paraschiv <andraprs@amazon.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>,
	Colm MacCarthaigh <colmmacc@amazon.com>,
	Bjoern Doebel <doebel@amazon.de>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Frank van der Linden <fllinden@amazon.com>,
	Martin Pohlack <mpohlack@amazon.de>, Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <sblbir@amazon.com>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Stewart Smith <trawets@amazon.com>,
	Uwe Dannowski <uwed@amazon.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, ne-devel-upstream@amazon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/18] nitro_enclaves: Init misc device providing the ioctl interface
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:51:16 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f256a37a89db56fcad229a1cfea11b8636b13829.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59007eb9-fad3-9655-a856-f5989fa9fdb3@amazon.de>

On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 14:44 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> So I really don't think an ioctl would be a great user experience. Same 
> for a sysfs file - although that's probably slightly better than the ioctl.

What would be wrong with a sysfs file ?

Another way to approach that makes sense from a kernel perspective is
to have the user first offline the CPUs, then "donate" them to the
driver via a sysfs file.

> Other options I can think of:
> 
>    * sysctl (for modules?)

Why would that be any good ? If anything sysctl's are even more awkward
in my book :)

>    * module parameter (as implemented here)
>    * proc file (deprecated FWIW)

Yeah no.

> The key is the tenant split: Admin sets the pool up, user consumes. This 
> setup should happen (early) on boot, so that system services can spawn 
> enclaves.

Right and you can have some init script or udev rule that sets that up
from a sys admin produced config file at boot upon detection of the
enclave PCI device for example.

> > module parameters are a major pain, you know this :)
> 
> I think in this case it's the least painful option ;). But I'm really 
> happy to hear about an actually good alternative to it. Right now, I 
> just can't think of any.

Cheers,
Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-01  2:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-25 22:13 [PATCH v3 00/18] Add support for Nitro Enclaves Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] nitro_enclaves: Add ioctl interface definition Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-27  8:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-28 18:05     ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-01  3:02     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-06-01  7:20       ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-05  8:15         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-06-05 15:39           ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] nitro_enclaves: Define the PCI device interface Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-26  6:44   ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 17:01     ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-05-26 22:21       ` Greg KH
2020-05-28 16:37         ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-01  2:59         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-06-01  7:07           ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-01  2:53       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] nitro_enclaves: Define enclave info for internal bookkeeping Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-26  6:46   ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 17:20     ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] nitro_enclaves: Init PCI device driver Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-26  6:48   ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 18:35     ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-05-26 22:19       ` Greg KH
2020-05-28 16:26         ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-01  2:55       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-06-01  6:42         ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] nitro_enclaves: Handle PCI device command requests Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] nitro_enclaves: Handle out-of-band PCI device events Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] nitro_enclaves: Init misc device providing the ioctl interface Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-26  6:51   ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 11:42     ` Alexander Graf
2020-05-26 12:33       ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 12:44         ` Alexander Graf
2020-05-26 13:17           ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 13:44             ` Alexander Graf
2020-05-26 22:24               ` Greg KH
2020-05-28 13:01                 ` Alexander Graf
2020-05-28 13:12                   ` Greg KH
2020-05-28 17:06                     ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-01  3:04                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-06-09 10:47                       ` Alexander Graf
2020-06-01  3:01                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-06-01  2:51           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2020-05-26 13:40         ` Paraschiv, Andra-Irina
2020-06-01  2:47     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-06-01  5:48       ` Greg KH
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] nitro_enclaves: Add logic for enclave vm creation Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] nitro_enclaves: Add logic for enclave vcpu creation Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] nitro_enclaves: Add logic for enclave image load metadata Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] nitro_enclaves: Add logic for enclave memory region set Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] nitro_enclaves: Add logic for enclave start Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] nitro_enclaves: Add logic for enclave termination Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] nitro_enclaves: Add Kconfig for the Nitro Enclaves driver Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] nitro_enclaves: Add Makefile " Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] nitro_enclaves: Add sample for ioctl interface usage Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-26  6:52   ` Greg KH
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] nitro_enclaves: Add overview documentation Andra Paraschiv
2020-05-25 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for the Nitro Enclaves driver Andra Paraschiv

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