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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>
Cc: keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, dhowells@redhat.com, dwmw2@infradead.org,
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	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, pjones@redhat.com,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/13] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:15:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6e2e17cc6c8a3056cc066a7baa4d943eeb47c84.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A02EE1DA-12BE-4998-ACE6-2D74FF380297@oracle.com>

On Wed, 2021-09-15 at 15:28 -0600, Eric Snowberg wrote:
> > On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 2021-09-14 at 17:14 -0400, Eric Snowberg wrote:
> > > Back in 2013 Linus requested a feature to allow end-users to have the 
> > > ability "to add their own keys and sign modules they trust". This was
> > > his *second* order outlined here [1]. There have been many attempts 
> > > over the years to solve this problem, all have been rejected.  Many 
> > > of the failed attempts loaded all preboot firmware keys into the kernel,
> > > including the Secure Boot keys. Many distributions carry one of these 
> > > rejected attempts [2], [3], [4]. This series tries to solve this problem 
> > > with a solution that takes into account all the problems brought up in 
> > > the previous attempts.
> > > 
> > > On UEFI based systems, this series introduces a new Linux kernel keyring 
> > > containing the Machine Owner Keys (MOK) called machine. It also defines
> > > a new MOK variable in shim. This variable allows the end-user to decide 
> > > if they want to load MOK keys into the machine keyring. Mimi has suggested 
> > > that only CA keys contained within the MOK be loaded into the machine 
> > > keyring. All other certs will load into the platform keyring instead.
> > > 
> > > By default, nothing changes; MOK keys are not loaded into the machine
> > > keyring.  They are only loaded after the end-user makes the decision 
> > > themselves.  The end-user would set this through mokutil using a new 
> > > --trust-mok option [5]. This would work similar to how the kernel uses 
> > > MOK variables to enable/disable signature validation as well as use/ignore 
> > > the db. Any kernel operation that uses either the builtin or secondary 
> > > trusted keys as a trust source shall also reference the new machine 
> > > keyring as a trust source.
> > > 
> > > Secure Boot keys will never be loaded into the machine keyring.  They
> > > will always be loaded into the platform keyring.  If an end-user wanted 
> > > to load one, they would need to enroll it into the MOK.
> > > 
> > > Steps required by the end user:
> > > 
> > > Sign kernel module with user created key:
> > > $ /usr/src/kernels/$(uname -r)/scripts/sign-file sha512 \
> > >   machine_signing_key.priv machine_signing_key.x509 my_module.ko
> > > 
> > > Import the key into the MOK
> > > $ mokutil --import machine_signing_key.x509
> > > 
> > > Setup the kernel to load MOK keys into the .machine keyring
> > > $ mokutil --trust-mok
> > > 
> > > Then reboot, the MokManager will load and ask if you want to trust the
> > > MOK key and enroll the MOK into the MOKList.  Afterwards the signed kernel
> > > module will load.
> > > 
> > > I have included links to both the mokutil [5] and shim [6] changes I
> > > have made to support this new functionality.
> > 
> > How hard it is to self-compile shim and boot it with QEMU (I
> > do not know even the GIT location of Shim)?
> 
> It is not hard, that is the setup I use for my testing.  Upstream shim 
> is located here [1].  Or you can use my repo which contains the necessary
> changes [2].
> 
> [1] https://github.com/rhboot/shim
> [2] https://github.com/esnowberg/shim/tree/mokvars-v2
> 

So, my 2nd Q would be: which order these should be upstreamed?

Linux patch set cannot depend on "yet to be upstreamed" things.

Code changes look good enough to me.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-16 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-14 21:14 [PATCH v6 00/13] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 01/13] integrity: Introduce a Linux keyring called machine Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/13] integrity: Do not allow machine keyring updates following init Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 03/13] KEYS: CA link restriction Eric Snowberg
2021-09-16 20:05   ` Nayna
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 04/13] integrity: restrict INTEGRITY_KEYRING_MACHINE to restrict_link_by_ca Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 05/13] integrity: add new keyring handler for mok keys Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 06/13] KEYS: Rename get_builtin_and_secondary_restriction Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 07/13] KEYS: add a reference to machine keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 08/13] KEYS: Introduce link restriction for machine keys Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 09/13] KEYS: integrity: change link restriction to trust the machine keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 10/13] KEYS: link secondary_trusted_keys to machine trusted keys Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 11/13] integrity: store reference to machine keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 12/13] integrity: Trust MOK keys if MokListTrustedRT found Eric Snowberg
2021-09-16 22:19   ` Peter Jones
2021-09-17  2:00     ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-17 15:03       ` Peter Jones
2021-09-17 16:06         ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 13/13] integrity: Only use machine keyring when uefi_check_trust_mok_keys is true Eric Snowberg
2021-09-15 17:57 ` [PATCH v6 00/13] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-15 21:28   ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-16 15:15     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2021-09-16 22:14       ` Peter Jones
2021-09-17  1:58         ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-21 21:03         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-16 20:03 ` Nayna
2021-09-17  1:55   ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-17 18:02     ` Mimi Zohar

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