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From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "miklos@szeredi.hu" <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"amir73il@gmail.com" <amir73il@gmail.com>,
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	"fw@deneb.enyo.de" <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] nfs: don't clear STATX_ATIME from result_mask
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:46:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbc3501c07fd48e65c0ffc8634870bf57a6f7fe1.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpeguFe=KcahJmZire52TPppMk8amiTJFiBZuv=97bRbCj8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2018-10-19 at 22:48 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Trond Myklebust
> <trondmy@hammerspace.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-10-19 at 19:46 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > How is it then that only STATX_ATIME is cleared and not the other
> > > fields?
> > 
> > It isn't just the atime. We can also fail to revalidate the ctime
> > and
> > mtime if they are not being requested by the user.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Note: junk != stale.  The statx definition doesn't talk about the
> > > fields being up-to-date, except for AT_STATX_FORCE_SYNC, so stale
> > > attributes are okay, and do not warrant clearing the result_mask.
> > > 
> > 
> > I disagree. stale == junk here, because the default of
> > AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT is described by the manpage as "Do  whatever
> > stat(2) does." which this is not.
> 
> Ah, you are talking about this:
> 
>     /* Is the user requesting attributes that might need
> revalidation? */
>     if (!(request_mask &
> (STATX_MODE|STATX_NLINK|STATX_ATIME|STATX_CTIME|
>                     STATX_MTIME|STATX_UID|STATX_GID|
>                     STATX_SIZE|STATX_BLOCKS)))
>         goto out_no_update;
> 
> Well, if this is triggered for statx(...,  STATX_ATIME,
> AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT) and MNT_NOATIME, then yes, result will be
> junk.
> Which means that the code is wrong, it shouldn't do that.

The problem is that vfs_getattr_nosec() populates stat->result_mask
with a default of STATX_BASIC_STATS, which makes no sense unless you
assume that the user will always ask for a superset of
STATX_BASIC_STATS (or you assume that those attributes never need
revalidation, which is obviously braindead).

> Otherwise (if something other than STATX_ATIME or STATX_INO or
> STATX_TYPE is given as well) it *will* do the same thing as what
> stat(2) does, so in that case STATX_ATIME should not  be cleared (yet
> it is cleared).

As far as I'm concerned, we can definitely get rid of the

        /*
         * We may force a getattr if the user cares about atime.
         *
         * Note that we only have to check the vfsmount flags here:
         *  - NFS always sets S_NOATIME by so checking it would give a
         *    bogus result
         *  - NFS never sets SB_NOATIME or SB_NODIRATIME so there is
         *    no point in checking those.
         */
        if ((path->mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NOATIME) ||
            ((path->mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NODIRATIME) && S_ISDIR(inode->i_mode)))
                request_mask &= ~STATX_ATIME;


however the rest needs to stay, or there is no way we can use statx()
to allow optimised retrieval of only those attributes that your
application cares about.
-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-20 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-19 12:20 [PATCH v2 1/5] orangefs: fix request_mask misuse Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 12:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] uapi: deprecate STATX_ALL Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 12:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] statx: add STATX_ATTRIBUTES flag Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 12:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] statx: don't clear STATX_ATIME on SB_RDONLY Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 12:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] nfs: don't clear STATX_ATIME from result_mask Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 15:52   ` Trond Myklebust
2018-10-19 17:46     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 18:14       ` Trond Myklebust
2018-10-19 20:48         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-20 17:46           ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2018-11-05 22:29             ` Andreas Dilger
2018-10-19 14:27 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] orangefs: fix request_mask misuse Andreas Dilger
2018-10-19 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] uapi: deprecate STATX_ALL David Howells
2018-10-19 15:40   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 15:47   ` David Howells
2018-10-19 17:30     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-19 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] statx: add STATX_ATTRIBUTES flag David Howells
2018-10-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] statx: don't clear STATX_ATIME on SB_RDONLY David Howells
2018-10-19 15:44 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] nfs: don't clear STATX_ATIME from result_mask David Howells

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