* Re: Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards
[not found] ` <20010802201329.A3034@erasmus.off.net>
@ 2001-08-03 17:11 ` Bill Pringlemeir
2001-08-03 17:22 ` Alan Cox
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From: Bill Pringlemeir @ 2001-08-03 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zach Brown; +Cc: Chris Rankin, linux-kernel, nerijus
>>>>> "Zach" == Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net> writes:
[snip]
Zach> doing many other things. Hopefully the kernel side of ALSA
Zach> will be acceptable for inclusion in 2.5. At least it has an
Zach> army of people actively maintaining it.
If ALSA will replace OSS, then does it make it somewhat futile to add
things to the current set of sound drivers? I was going to look at
the SBLive driver. I have been side tracked by an xterm bug; it seems
to have bad handling of utmp on Linux.
regards,
Bill Pringlemeir.
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* Re: Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards
2001-08-03 17:11 ` Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards Bill Pringlemeir
@ 2001-08-03 17:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-03 17:36 ` utempter [was: Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards] Bill Pringlemeir
2001-08-03 17:40 ` Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards Chris Rankin
2001-08-03 20:25 ` Zach Brown
2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2001-08-03 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bill Pringlemeir; +Cc: Zach Brown, Chris Rankin, linux-kernel, nerijus
> If ALSA will replace OSS, then does it make it somewhat futile to add
> things to the current set of sound drivers? I was going to look at
> the SBLive driver. I have been side tracked by an xterm bug; it seems
> to have bad handling of utmp on Linux.
Most folks I know are using utmpter for that - it avoids xterm being setuid
setgid or anything else that you really dont want to make it.
As to the sblive - well its probably 2 years away from 2.6 and much of the
work is being shared - the same bugs turn up in both ALSA and OSS quite
often and several OSS drivers are based off ALSA ones
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* utempter [was: Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards]
2001-08-03 17:22 ` Alan Cox
@ 2001-08-03 17:36 ` Bill Pringlemeir
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From: Bill Pringlemeir @ 2001-08-03 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Alan> Most folks I know are using utmpter for that - it avoids xterm
That is `utempter' for those who didn't know like me.
regards,
Bill
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* Re: Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards
2001-08-03 17:11 ` Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards Bill Pringlemeir
2001-08-03 17:22 ` Alan Cox
@ 2001-08-03 17:40 ` Chris Rankin
2001-08-03 20:25 ` Zach Brown
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chris Rankin @ 2001-08-03 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bill Pringlemeir, Zach Brown; +Cc: Chris Rankin, linux-kernel, nerijus
ALSA won't replace OSS overnight, and so a small
amount of OSS-maintenance can't possibly hurt. For
example, I use the OSS version of the emu10k1 driver
for DVD sound because the OSS one is realtime-capable
(and so provides better synchronisation) but the ALSA
one isn't yet.
Besides, the API I've tried to fix is actually *used*
by ALSA to provide OSS-emulation devices, except that
it doesn't work on a devfs-based machine with multiple
sound cards because all the device names clash.
Cheers,
Chris
--- Bill Pringlemeir <bpringle@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>>>> "Zach" == Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net> writes:
> [snip]
> Zach> doing many other things. Hopefully the
> kernel side of ALSA
> Zach> will be acceptable for inclusion in 2.5. At
> least it has an
> Zach> army of people actively maintaining it.
>
> If ALSA will replace OSS, then does it make it
> somewhat futile to add
> things to the current set of sound drivers? I was
> going to look at
> the SBLive driver. I have been side tracked by an
> xterm bug; it seems
> to have bad handling of utmp on Linux.
>
> regards,
> Bill Pringlemeir.
>
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* Re: Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards
2001-08-03 17:11 ` Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards Bill Pringlemeir
2001-08-03 17:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-03 17:40 ` Fw: PATCH: creating devices for multiple sound cards Chris Rankin
@ 2001-08-03 20:25 ` Zach Brown
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Zach Brown @ 2001-08-03 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bill Pringlemeir; +Cc: Chris Rankin, linux-kernel, nerijus
> If ALSA will replace OSS, then does it make it somewhat futile to add
> things to the current set of sound drivers?
Not at all. As Alan said, its going to be quite a while before people
are seriously using 2.[56]. Until then its OSS for the majority of
users.
- z
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