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* [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
@ 2017-12-28 11:19 Paolo Valente
  2017-12-28 14:00 ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2017-12-29 14:10 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Valente @ 2017-12-28 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jens Axboe
  Cc: linux-block, linux-kernel, ulf.hansson, broonie, linus.walleij,
	bfq-iosched, oleksandr, Paolo Valente

To maximise responsiveness, BFQ raises the weight, and performs device
idling, for bfq_queues associated with processes deemed as
interactive. In particular, weight raising has a maximum duration,
equal to the time needed to start a large application. If a
weight-raised process goes on doing I/O beyond this maximum duration,
it loses weight-raising.

This mechanism is evidently vulnerable to the following false
positives: I/O-bound applications that will go on doing I/O for much
longer than the duration of weight-raising. These applications have
basically no benefit from being weight-raised at the beginning of
their I/O. On the opposite end, while being weight-raised, these
applications
a) unjustly steal throughput to applications that may truly need
low latency;
b) make BFQ uselessly perform device idling; device idling results
in loss of device throughput with most flash-based storage, and may
increase latencies when used purposelessly.

This commit adds a countermeasure to reduce both the above
problems. To introduce this countermeasure, we provide the following
extra piece of information (full details in the comments added by this
commit). During the start-up of the large application used as a
reference to set the duration of weight-raising, involved processes
transfer at most ~110K sectors each. Accordingly, a process initially
deemed as interactive has no right to be weight-raised any longer,
once transferred 110K sectors or more.

Basing on this consideration, this commit early-ends weight-raising
for a bfq_queue if the latter happens to have received an amount of
service at least equal to 110K sectors (actually, a little bit more,
to keep a safety margin). I/O-bound applications that reach a high
throughput, such as file copy, get to this threshold much before the
allowed weight-raising period finishes. Thus this early ending of
weight-raising reduces the amount of time during which these
applications cause the problems described above.

Signed-off-by: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
---
 block/bfq-iosched.c | 81 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 block/bfq-iosched.h |  5 ++++
 block/bfq-wf2q.c    |  3 ++
 3 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.c b/block/bfq-iosched.c
index 6f75015d18c0..ea48b5c8f088 100644
--- a/block/bfq-iosched.c
+++ b/block/bfq-iosched.c
@@ -209,15 +209,17 @@ static struct kmem_cache *bfq_pool;
  * interactive applications automatically, using the following formula:
  * duration = (R / r) * T, where r is the peak rate of the device, and
  * R and T are two reference parameters.
- * In particular, R is the peak rate of the reference device (see below),
- * and T is a reference time: given the systems that are likely to be
- * installed on the reference device according to its speed class, T is
- * about the maximum time needed, under BFQ and while reading two files in
- * parallel, to load typical large applications on these systems.
- * In practice, the slower/faster the device at hand is, the more/less it
- * takes to load applications with respect to the reference device.
- * Accordingly, the longer/shorter BFQ grants weight raising to interactive
- * applications.
+ * In particular, R is the peak rate of the reference device (see
+ * below), and T is a reference time: given the systems that are
+ * likely to be installed on the reference device according to its
+ * speed class, T is about the maximum time needed, under BFQ and
+ * while reading two files in parallel, to load typical large
+ * applications on these systems (see the comments on
+ * max_service_from_wr below, for more details on how T is obtained).
+ * In practice, the slower/faster the device at hand is, the more/less
+ * it takes to load applications with respect to the reference device.
+ * Accordingly, the longer/shorter BFQ grants weight raising to
+ * interactive applications.
  *
  * BFQ uses four different reference pairs (R, T), depending on:
  * . whether the device is rotational or non-rotational;
@@ -254,6 +256,60 @@ static int T_slow[2];
 static int T_fast[2];
 static int device_speed_thresh[2];
 
+/*
+ * BFQ uses the above-detailed, time-based weight-raising mechanism to
+ * privilege interactive tasks. This mechanism is vulnerable to the
+ * following false positives: I/O-bound applications that will go on
+ * doing I/O for much longer than the duration of weight
+ * raising. These applications have basically no benefit from being
+ * weight-raised at the beginning of their I/O. On the opposite end,
+ * while being weight-raised, these applications
+ * a) unjustly steal throughput to applications that may actually need
+ * low latency;
+ * b) make BFQ uselessly perform device idling; device idling results
+ * in loss of device throughput with most flash-based storage, and may
+ * increase latencies when used purposelessly.
+ *
+ * BFQ tries to reduce these problems, by adopting the following
+ * countermeasure. To introduce this countermeasure, we need first to
+ * finish explaining how the duration of weight-raising for
+ * interactive tasks is computed.
+ *
+ * For a bfq_queue deemed as interactive, the duration of weight
+ * raising is dynamically adjusted, as a function of the estimated
+ * peak rate of the device, so as to be equal to the time needed to
+ * execute the 'largest' interactive task we benchmarked so far. By
+ * largest task, we mean the task for which each involved process has
+ * to do more I/O than for any of the other tasks we benchmarked. This
+ * reference interactive task is the start-up of LibreOffice Writer,
+ * and in this task each process/bfq_queue needs to have at most ~110K
+ * sectors transferred.
+ *
+ * This last piece of information enables BFQ to reduce the actual
+ * duration of weight-raising for at least one class of I/O-bound
+ * applications: those doing sequential or quasi-sequential I/O. An
+ * example is file copy. In fact, once started, the main I/O-bound
+ * processes of these applications usually consume the above 110K
+ * sectors in much less time than the processes of an application that
+ * is starting, because these I/O-bound processes will greedily devote
+ * almost all their CPU cycles only to their target,
+ * throughput-friendly I/O operations. This is even more true if BFQ
+ * happens to be underestimating the device peak rate, and thus
+ * overestimating the duration of weight raising. But, according to
+ * our measurements, once transferred 110K sectors, these processes
+ * have no right to be weight-raised any longer.
+ *
+ * Basing on the last consideration, BFQ ends weight-raising for a
+ * bfq_queue if the latter happens to have received an amount of
+ * service at least equal to the following constant. The constant is
+ * set to slightly more than 110K, to have a minimum safety margin.
+ *
+ * This early ending of weight-raising reduces the amount of time
+ * during which interactive false positives cause the two problems
+ * described at the beginning of these comments.
+ */
+static const unsigned long max_service_from_wr = 120000;
+
 #define RQ_BIC(rq)		icq_to_bic((rq)->elv.priv[0])
 #define RQ_BFQQ(rq)		((rq)->elv.priv[1])
 
@@ -1352,6 +1408,7 @@ static void bfq_update_bfqq_wr_on_rq_arrival(struct bfq_data *bfqd,
 	if (old_wr_coeff == 1 && wr_or_deserves_wr) {
 		/* start a weight-raising period */
 		if (interactive) {
+			bfqq->service_from_wr = 0;
 			bfqq->wr_coeff = bfqd->bfq_wr_coeff;
 			bfqq->wr_cur_max_time = bfq_wr_duration(bfqd);
 		} else {
@@ -3665,6 +3722,12 @@ static void bfq_update_wr_data(struct bfq_data *bfqd, struct bfq_queue *bfqq)
 				bfqq->entity.prio_changed = 1;
 			}
 		}
+		if (bfqq->wr_coeff > 1 &&
+		    bfqq->wr_cur_max_time != bfqd->bfq_wr_rt_max_time &&
+		    bfqq->service_from_wr > max_service_from_wr) {
+			/* see comments on max_service_from_wr */
+			bfq_bfqq_end_wr(bfqq);
+		}
 	}
 	/*
 	 * To improve latency (for this or other queues), immediately
diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.h b/block/bfq-iosched.h
index fcd941008127..350c39ae2896 100644
--- a/block/bfq-iosched.h
+++ b/block/bfq-iosched.h
@@ -337,6 +337,11 @@ struct bfq_queue {
 	 * last transition from idle to backlogged.
 	 */
 	unsigned long service_from_backlogged;
+	/*
+	 * Cumulative service received from the @bfq_queue since its
+	 * last transition to weight-raised state.
+	 */
+	unsigned long service_from_wr;
 
 	/*
 	 * Value of wr start time when switching to soft rt
diff --git a/block/bfq-wf2q.c b/block/bfq-wf2q.c
index 4456eda34e48..4498c43245e2 100644
--- a/block/bfq-wf2q.c
+++ b/block/bfq-wf2q.c
@@ -838,6 +838,9 @@ void bfq_bfqq_served(struct bfq_queue *bfqq, int served)
 	if (!bfqq->service_from_backlogged)
 		bfqq->first_IO_time = jiffies;
 
+	if (bfqq->wr_coeff > 1)
+		bfqq->service_from_wr += served;
+
 	bfqq->service_from_backlogged += served;
 	for_each_entity(entity) {
 		st = bfq_entity_service_tree(entity);
-- 
2.15.1

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* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2017-12-28 11:19 [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising Paolo Valente
@ 2017-12-28 14:00 ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2018-01-07 18:09   ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2018-01-12  5:58   ` Paolo Valente
  2017-12-29 14:10 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Holger Hoffstätte @ 2017-12-28 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Valente, Jens Axboe
  Cc: linux-block, linux-kernel, ulf.hansson, broonie, linus.walleij,
	bfq-iosched, oleksandr


On 12/28/17 12:19, Paolo Valente wrote:
(snip half a tech report ;)

So either this or the previous patch ("limit tags for writes and async I/O"
can lead to a hard, unrecoverable hang with heavy writes. Since I couldn't
log into the affected system anymore I couldn't get any stack traces, blk-mq
debug output etc. but there was nothing in dmesg/on the console, so it
wasn't a BUG/OOPS.

-h

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* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2017-12-28 11:19 [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising Paolo Valente
  2017-12-28 14:00 ` Holger Hoffstätte
@ 2017-12-29 14:10 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Oleksandr Natalenko @ 2017-12-29 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Valente
  Cc: Jens Axboe, linux-block, linux-kernel, ulf.hansson, broonie,
	linus.walleij, bfq-iosched

Hi.

On čtvrtek 28. prosince 2017 12:19:17 CET Paolo Valente wrote:
> To maximise responsiveness, BFQ raises the weight, and performs device
> idling, for bfq_queues associated with processes deemed as
> interactive. In particular, weight raising has a maximum duration,
> equal to the time needed to start a large application. If a
> weight-raised process goes on doing I/O beyond this maximum duration,
> it loses weight-raising.
> 
> This mechanism is evidently vulnerable to the following false
> positives: I/O-bound applications that will go on doing I/O for much
> longer than the duration of weight-raising. These applications have
> basically no benefit from being weight-raised at the beginning of
> their I/O. On the opposite end, while being weight-raised, these
> applications
> a) unjustly steal throughput to applications that may truly need
> low latency;
> b) make BFQ uselessly perform device idling; device idling results
> in loss of device throughput with most flash-based storage, and may
> increase latencies when used purposelessly.
> 
> This commit adds a countermeasure to reduce both the above
> problems. To introduce this countermeasure, we provide the following
> extra piece of information (full details in the comments added by this
> commit). During the start-up of the large application used as a
> reference to set the duration of weight-raising, involved processes
> transfer at most ~110K sectors each. Accordingly, a process initially
> deemed as interactive has no right to be weight-raised any longer,
> once transferred 110K sectors or more.
> 
> Basing on this consideration, this commit early-ends weight-raising
> for a bfq_queue if the latter happens to have received an amount of
> service at least equal to 110K sectors (actually, a little bit more,
> to keep a safety margin). I/O-bound applications that reach a high
> throughput, such as file copy, get to this threshold much before the
> allowed weight-raising period finishes. Thus this early ending of
> weight-raising reduces the amount of time during which these
> applications cause the problems described above.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
> ---
>  block/bfq-iosched.c | 81
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------ block/bfq-iosched.h |
>  5 ++++
>  block/bfq-wf2q.c    |  3 ++
>  3 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.c b/block/bfq-iosched.c
> index 6f75015d18c0..ea48b5c8f088 100644
> --- a/block/bfq-iosched.c
> +++ b/block/bfq-iosched.c
> @@ -209,15 +209,17 @@ static struct kmem_cache *bfq_pool;
>   * interactive applications automatically, using the following formula:
>   * duration = (R / r) * T, where r is the peak rate of the device, and
>   * R and T are two reference parameters.
> - * In particular, R is the peak rate of the reference device (see below),
> - * and T is a reference time: given the systems that are likely to be
> - * installed on the reference device according to its speed class, T is
> - * about the maximum time needed, under BFQ and while reading two files in
> - * parallel, to load typical large applications on these systems.
> - * In practice, the slower/faster the device at hand is, the more/less it
> - * takes to load applications with respect to the reference device.
> - * Accordingly, the longer/shorter BFQ grants weight raising to interactive
> - * applications.
> + * In particular, R is the peak rate of the reference device (see
> + * below), and T is a reference time: given the systems that are
> + * likely to be installed on the reference device according to its
> + * speed class, T is about the maximum time needed, under BFQ and
> + * while reading two files in parallel, to load typical large
> + * applications on these systems (see the comments on
> + * max_service_from_wr below, for more details on how T is obtained).
> + * In practice, the slower/faster the device at hand is, the more/less
> + * it takes to load applications with respect to the reference device.
> + * Accordingly, the longer/shorter BFQ grants weight raising to
> + * interactive applications.
>   *
>   * BFQ uses four different reference pairs (R, T), depending on:
>   * . whether the device is rotational or non-rotational;
> @@ -254,6 +256,60 @@ static int T_slow[2];
>  static int T_fast[2];
>  static int device_speed_thresh[2];
> 
> +/*
> + * BFQ uses the above-detailed, time-based weight-raising mechanism to
> + * privilege interactive tasks. This mechanism is vulnerable to the
> + * following false positives: I/O-bound applications that will go on
> + * doing I/O for much longer than the duration of weight
> + * raising. These applications have basically no benefit from being
> + * weight-raised at the beginning of their I/O. On the opposite end,
> + * while being weight-raised, these applications
> + * a) unjustly steal throughput to applications that may actually need
> + * low latency;
> + * b) make BFQ uselessly perform device idling; device idling results
> + * in loss of device throughput with most flash-based storage, and may
> + * increase latencies when used purposelessly.
> + *
> + * BFQ tries to reduce these problems, by adopting the following
> + * countermeasure. To introduce this countermeasure, we need first to
> + * finish explaining how the duration of weight-raising for
> + * interactive tasks is computed.
> + *
> + * For a bfq_queue deemed as interactive, the duration of weight
> + * raising is dynamically adjusted, as a function of the estimated
> + * peak rate of the device, so as to be equal to the time needed to
> + * execute the 'largest' interactive task we benchmarked so far. By
> + * largest task, we mean the task for which each involved process has
> + * to do more I/O than for any of the other tasks we benchmarked. This
> + * reference interactive task is the start-up of LibreOffice Writer,
> + * and in this task each process/bfq_queue needs to have at most ~110K
> + * sectors transferred.
> + *
> + * This last piece of information enables BFQ to reduce the actual
> + * duration of weight-raising for at least one class of I/O-bound
> + * applications: those doing sequential or quasi-sequential I/O. An
> + * example is file copy. In fact, once started, the main I/O-bound
> + * processes of these applications usually consume the above 110K
> + * sectors in much less time than the processes of an application that
> + * is starting, because these I/O-bound processes will greedily devote
> + * almost all their CPU cycles only to their target,
> + * throughput-friendly I/O operations. This is even more true if BFQ
> + * happens to be underestimating the device peak rate, and thus
> + * overestimating the duration of weight raising. But, according to
> + * our measurements, once transferred 110K sectors, these processes
> + * have no right to be weight-raised any longer.
> + *
> + * Basing on the last consideration, BFQ ends weight-raising for a
> + * bfq_queue if the latter happens to have received an amount of
> + * service at least equal to the following constant. The constant is
> + * set to slightly more than 110K, to have a minimum safety margin.
> + *
> + * This early ending of weight-raising reduces the amount of time
> + * during which interactive false positives cause the two problems
> + * described at the beginning of these comments.
> + */
> +static const unsigned long max_service_from_wr = 120000;
> +
>  #define RQ_BIC(rq)		icq_to_bic((rq)->elv.priv[0])
>  #define RQ_BFQQ(rq)		((rq)->elv.priv[1])
> 
> @@ -1352,6 +1408,7 @@ static void bfq_update_bfqq_wr_on_rq_arrival(struct
> bfq_data *bfqd, if (old_wr_coeff == 1 && wr_or_deserves_wr) {
>  		/* start a weight-raising period */
>  		if (interactive) {
> +			bfqq->service_from_wr = 0;
>  			bfqq->wr_coeff = bfqd->bfq_wr_coeff;
>  			bfqq->wr_cur_max_time = bfq_wr_duration(bfqd);
>  		} else {
> @@ -3665,6 +3722,12 @@ static void bfq_update_wr_data(struct bfq_data *bfqd,
> struct bfq_queue *bfqq) bfqq->entity.prio_changed = 1;
>  			}
>  		}
> +		if (bfqq->wr_coeff > 1 &&
> +		    bfqq->wr_cur_max_time != bfqd->bfq_wr_rt_max_time &&
> +		    bfqq->service_from_wr > max_service_from_wr) {
> +			/* see comments on max_service_from_wr */
> +			bfq_bfqq_end_wr(bfqq);
> +		}
>  	}
>  	/*
>  	 * To improve latency (for this or other queues), immediately
> diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.h b/block/bfq-iosched.h
> index fcd941008127..350c39ae2896 100644
> --- a/block/bfq-iosched.h
> +++ b/block/bfq-iosched.h
> @@ -337,6 +337,11 @@ struct bfq_queue {
>  	 * last transition from idle to backlogged.
>  	 */
>  	unsigned long service_from_backlogged;
> +	/*
> +	 * Cumulative service received from the @bfq_queue since its
> +	 * last transition to weight-raised state.
> +	 */
> +	unsigned long service_from_wr;
> 
>  	/*
>  	 * Value of wr start time when switching to soft rt
> diff --git a/block/bfq-wf2q.c b/block/bfq-wf2q.c
> index 4456eda34e48..4498c43245e2 100644
> --- a/block/bfq-wf2q.c
> +++ b/block/bfq-wf2q.c
> @@ -838,6 +838,9 @@ void bfq_bfqq_served(struct bfq_queue *bfqq, int served)
> if (!bfqq->service_from_backlogged)
>  		bfqq->first_IO_time = jiffies;
> 
> +	if (bfqq->wr_coeff > 1)
> +		bfqq->service_from_wr += served;
> +
>  	bfqq->service_from_backlogged += served;
>  	for_each_entity(entity) {
>  		st = bfq_entity_service_tree(entity);

Building and running it routinely on my laptop didn't reveal any smoke (at 
least, yet), so

Tested-by: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>

(actually, currently my Tested-by applies to all pending BFQ patches too)

Regards,
  Oleksandr

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* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2017-12-28 14:00 ` Holger Hoffstätte
@ 2018-01-07 18:09   ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2018-01-12  5:58   ` Paolo Valente
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Holger Hoffstätte @ 2018-01-07 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel; +Cc: linux-block

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:00:56 +0100, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:

> On 12/28/17 12:19, Paolo Valente wrote:
> (snip half a tech report ;)
> 
> So either this or the previous patch ("limit tags for writes and async I/O"
> can lead to a hard, unrecoverable hang with heavy writes. Since I couldn't
> log into the affected system anymore I couldn't get any stack traces, blk-mq
> debug output etc. but there was nothing in dmesg/on the console, so it
> wasn't a BUG/OOPS.

So this turned out to be something else, sorry for the false alarm.

-h

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* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2017-12-28 14:00 ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2018-01-07 18:09   ` Holger Hoffstätte
@ 2018-01-12  5:58   ` Paolo Valente
  2018-01-12 10:15     ` Holger Hoffstätte
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Valente @ 2018-01-12  5:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Holger Hoffstätte
  Cc: Jens Axboe, linux-block, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Ulf Hansson,
	broonie, linus.walleij, bfq-iosched, oleksandr



> Il giorno 28 dic 2017, alle ore 15:00, Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com> ha scritto:
> 
> 
> On 12/28/17 12:19, Paolo Valente wrote:
> (snip half a tech report ;)
> 
> So either this or the previous patch ("limit tags for writes and async I/O"
> can lead to a hard, unrecoverable hang with heavy writes. Since I couldn't
> log into the affected system anymore I couldn't get any stack traces, blk-mq
> debug output etc. but there was nothing in dmesg/on the console, so it
> wasn't a BUG/OOPS.
> 
> -h

Hi Holger,
if, as I guess, this problem hasn't gone away for you, I have two
requests:
1) could you share your exact test
2) if nothing happens in my systems with your test, would you be
willing to retry with the dev version of bfq?  It should be able to
tell us what takes to your hang.  If you are willing to do this test,
I'll prepare a branch with everything already configured for you.

Thanks,
Paolo

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* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2018-01-12  5:58   ` Paolo Valente
@ 2018-01-12 10:15     ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2018-01-12 10:20       ` Paolo Valente
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Holger Hoffstätte @ 2018-01-12 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Valente
  Cc: Jens Axboe, linux-block, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Ulf Hansson,
	broonie, linus.walleij, bfq-iosched, oleksandr

On 01/12/18 06:58, Paolo Valente wrote:
> 
> 
>> Il giorno 28 dic 2017, alle ore 15:00, Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/17 12:19, Paolo Valente wrote:
>> (snip half a tech report ;)
>>
>> So either this or the previous patch ("limit tags for writes and async I/O"
>> can lead to a hard, unrecoverable hang with heavy writes. Since I couldn't
>> log into the affected system anymore I couldn't get any stack traces, blk-mq
>> debug output etc. but there was nothing in dmesg/on the console, so it
>> wasn't a BUG/OOPS.
>>
>> -h
> 
> Hi Holger,
> if, as I guess, this problem hasn't gone away for you, I have two
> requests:
> 1) could you share your exact test
> 2) if nothing happens in my systems with your test, would you be
> willing to retry with the dev version of bfq?  It should be able to
> tell us what takes to your hang.  If you are willing to do this test,
> I'll prepare a branch with everything already configured for you.

Hi,

thanks for following up but there's no need for any of that; it turned out
to be something else since I got the same hang without those patches at
least once (during a btrfs balance, even though it didn't look like btrfs'
fault directly; more like block/mm/helpers.

So on January 7 I posted to linux-block et.al. where I said
"So this turned out to be something else, sorry for the false alarm."
but apparently that didn't make it through since it's not in the
archives either. Sorry.

Long story short, the good news is that I've been running with both patches
since then without any issue. :)

cheers
Holger

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2018-01-12 10:15     ` Holger Hoffstätte
@ 2018-01-12 10:20       ` Paolo Valente
  2018-01-12 15:13         ` Jens Axboe
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Valente @ 2018-01-12 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Holger Hoffstätte
  Cc: Jens Axboe, linux-block, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Ulf Hansson,
	Mark Brown, Linus Walleij, bfq-iosched, oleksandr



> Il giorno 12 gen 2018, alle ore 11:15, Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com> ha scritto:
> 
> On 01/12/18 06:58, Paolo Valente wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Il giorno 28 dic 2017, alle ore 15:00, Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/28/17 12:19, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>> (snip half a tech report ;)
>>> 
>>> So either this or the previous patch ("limit tags for writes and async I/O"
>>> can lead to a hard, unrecoverable hang with heavy writes. Since I couldn't
>>> log into the affected system anymore I couldn't get any stack traces, blk-mq
>>> debug output etc. but there was nothing in dmesg/on the console, so it
>>> wasn't a BUG/OOPS.
>>> 
>>> -h
>> 
>> Hi Holger,
>> if, as I guess, this problem hasn't gone away for you, I have two
>> requests:
>> 1) could you share your exact test
>> 2) if nothing happens in my systems with your test, would you be
>> willing to retry with the dev version of bfq?  It should be able to
>> tell us what takes to your hang.  If you are willing to do this test,
>> I'll prepare a branch with everything already configured for you.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for following up but there's no need for any of that; it turned out
> to be something else since I got the same hang without those patches at
> least once (during a btrfs balance, even though it didn't look like btrfs'
> fault directly; more like block/mm/helpers.
> 
> So on January 7 I posted to linux-block et.al. where I said
> "So this turned out to be something else, sorry for the false alarm."
> but apparently that didn't make it through since it's not in the
> archives either. Sorry.
> 
> Long story short, the good news is that I've been running with both patches
> since then without any issue. :)
> 

Wow, what a relief! :)

So, Jens, being the only issue reported gone, can you please consider
queueing this patch and the other pending one [1]?  They are both
critical for bfq performance.

Thanks,
Paolo

[1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2684463.html

> cheers
> Holger

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH IMPROVEMENT] block, bfq: limit sectors served with interactive weight raising
  2018-01-12 10:20       ` Paolo Valente
@ 2018-01-12 15:13         ` Jens Axboe
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jens Axboe @ 2018-01-12 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Valente, Holger Hoffstätte
  Cc: linux-block, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Ulf Hansson, Mark Brown,
	Linus Walleij, bfq-iosched, oleksandr

On 1/12/18 3:20 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
> 
> 
>> Il giorno 12 gen 2018, alle ore 11:15, Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> On 01/12/18 06:58, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Il giorno 28 dic 2017, alle ore 15:00, Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/28/17 12:19, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>>> (snip half a tech report ;)
>>>>
>>>> So either this or the previous patch ("limit tags for writes and async I/O"
>>>> can lead to a hard, unrecoverable hang with heavy writes. Since I couldn't
>>>> log into the affected system anymore I couldn't get any stack traces, blk-mq
>>>> debug output etc. but there was nothing in dmesg/on the console, so it
>>>> wasn't a BUG/OOPS.
>>>>
>>>> -h
>>>
>>> Hi Holger,
>>> if, as I guess, this problem hasn't gone away for you, I have two
>>> requests:
>>> 1) could you share your exact test
>>> 2) if nothing happens in my systems with your test, would you be
>>> willing to retry with the dev version of bfq?  It should be able to
>>> tell us what takes to your hang.  If you are willing to do this test,
>>> I'll prepare a branch with everything already configured for you.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks for following up but there's no need for any of that; it turned out
>> to be something else since I got the same hang without those patches at
>> least once (during a btrfs balance, even though it didn't look like btrfs'
>> fault directly; more like block/mm/helpers.
>>
>> So on January 7 I posted to linux-block et.al. where I said
>> "So this turned out to be something else, sorry for the false alarm."
>> but apparently that didn't make it through since it's not in the
>> archives either. Sorry.
>>
>> Long story short, the good news is that I've been running with both patches
>> since then without any issue. :)
>>
> 
> Wow, what a relief! :)
> 
> So, Jens, being the only issue reported gone, can you please consider
> queueing this patch and the other pending one [1]?  They are both
> critical for bfq performance.

Please just resend them.

-- 
Jens Axboe

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

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