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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Cc: Jiada Wang <jiada_wang@mentor.com>,
	apape@de.adit-jv.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Mark_Craske@mentor.com
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/3 v1] ALSA: usb-audio: more tolerant packetsize
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 09:58:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hy40010w5.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1cb0aa49-62d5-b2ac-a473-bbce3f491d59@ladisch.de>

On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 08:41:17 +0100,
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> 
> Jiada Wang wrote:
> > since commit 57e6dae1087bbaa6b33d3dd8a8e90b63888939a3 the expected packetsize is always limited to
> > nominal + 25%. It was discovered, that some devices
> 
> Which devices?
> 
> > have a much higher jitter in used packetsizes than 25%
> 
> How high?  (Please note that the USB specification restricts the jitter
> to at most one frame in consecutive packets.)
> 
> > which would result in BABBLE condition and dropping of packets.
> > A better solution is so assume the jitter to be the nominal packetsize
> 
> This solution is better for this one particular device, but how does it
> affect normal devices, or the Scarlett 2i4 on EHCI affected?

Actually, which value does this affected device in ep->maxpacksize?
In the commit mentioned above, we changed the logic to take +25%
frequency as the basis, and it my *reduce* if ep->maxpacksize is lower
than that.

OTOH, if ep->maxpacksize is sane, we can rely on it rather than the
implicit +25% frequency.  That said, maybe we can check
ep->maxpacksize whether it fits within the expected range, then adapt
it, or take +25% freq as fallback?


thanks,

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-01  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-30  7:59 [PATCH 0/3 v1] usb-misc fix Jiada Wang
2016-11-30  7:59 ` [PATCH 1/3 v1] ALSA: usb-audio: more tolerant packetsize Jiada Wang
2016-11-30  8:54   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-12-01  7:04     ` Jiada Wang
2016-12-01  7:41   ` [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2016-12-01  8:58     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2016-12-01 11:16       ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-12-01 11:23         ` Takashi Iwai
2016-12-01 11:50           ` Clemens Ladisch
     [not found]     ` <58400B3A.7080806@mentor.com>
2016-12-01 12:15       ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-11-30  7:59 ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] ALSA: usb-audio: avoid setting of sample rate multiple times on bus Jiada Wang
2016-11-30  8:51   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-12-01  7:07     ` Jiada Wang
2016-11-30 10:45   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-11-30 22:19     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-12-05  7:32     ` Jiada Wang
2016-12-05  9:58       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-11-30  7:59 ` [PATCH 3/3 v3] ALSA: usb-audio: fix race in snd_usb_endpoint_stop Jiada Wang
2016-11-30  9:00   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-12-05 10:10     ` Jiada Wang
2016-12-05 10:30       ` Takashi Iwai

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